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Elon's biggest problem @ Twitter - he's not funny at tweeting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, Dec 2, 2022.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    LOL... gee, I really have embarrassed you it appears. The good news is I can always count on a rent-free place to live in should I ever become homeless.
     
  2. Amiga

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    If twitter wanted to block her for some reason, it did a poor job of it. If the intention is to avoid the lawsuit by simply blocking her name from searches, it did a poor job. If it’s capable of doing 1&2 as I said, there is no need to block her name. Overall a poor job at execution whatever it was trying to do.

    That’s basically what my post was about. You can go debate the theory with others, I’m not interested.
     
  3. Space Ghost

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    Amiga: I don't know why X prevents Taylor Swift searches
    Also Amiga: But whatever the reason, they executed poorly

    Bots can create accounts and repost material infinitely faster than the content can be deleted. All social media platforms deal with this.

    For the record, I was mocking NewRoxFans post, not yours.
     
  4. Amiga

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    That’s fine.

    You don’t need to fully understand the reason or intention (I would argue most of the time, you don’t completely know) to judge its execution.
     
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  5. Invisible Fan

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    Social media algorithms are modern day palantir stones.
     
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  6. Amiga

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    @Space Ghost I glanced over the bot, but here is my reply to that.

    On the topic of bots, social media platforms can go after any that post content against their rules. They have experience in this area. While social media platforms are generally protected under Section 230, there are exceptions. All of them are legally accountable to promptly, in good faith, remove illegal content, such as child p*rnography. They certainly have the know-how to do so, and AFAIK, all of them have done so in good faith. Of course, they aren't 100% successful, but it's incorrect to imply that they are losing the battle (in terms of removing content they do not allow) to bots or non-bots.

    On a related topic, I think our laws need to be updated to make it illegal to post non-consensual deepfake nude or pornographic images of real people once they become indistinguishable from the actual person. I'm sure many fans will be disappointed, given the popularity of deepfake p*rn, but this is crossing over into causing real damages to real people, especially when it involves kids. We already have cases of suicides due to deepfake.
     
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  7. Space Ghost

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    There are certain actions and crimes people can't hide from behind the internet. Child p*rn is one of those. A person has to be in a dark place to be able to openly share child p*rn. And its so despicable that operations can go on for months to scoop in as many predators as possible. I can't think of a single country that would harbor a known child pornographer.

    Now that tends to taper off quickly. There are places around the world where local authorities do not give a **** if local CDN operators openly allow customers to share AI TayTay pics. This is where bots come into play.

    From the CDN, the content needs to be shared on a platform. More authoritarian platforms can censor this data more easily. However with greater power to censor (ie: effectively stop the bots), the easier it is for these platforms to censor whatever they deem fit.

    X is trying to be as anti-authoritarian as it can be. Too much censorship, Musk starts censoring things he doesnt like. Too little and you have a child p*rnography problem. If the platform has an API to create accounts and post, bots can infinitely do whatever they want. Again, p*rnography isn't a huge issue because nobody on this planet is going to openly tolerate it. X has a serious bot problem because they promote open speech of almost all kinds. Part of that is insuring as much anonymity as possible.

    X wants to create custom algorithms using AI to assist the user in filtering unwanted content. The current algorithms suck. For example, I follow someone who rages and replies to musk tweets that shows up her feed. She rants that she can't stand him, doesn't follow him and wants his post to stop showing up in her feed ... but in her sheer stupidity and crappy algorithm, she is doing the opposite, she is interacting with the post and the algorithm instead interprets that as her wanting further engagement. Who knows if that will happen.
     
  8. Space Ghost

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    I'm surprised the vultures aren't all over this.

    I have been thinking about buying some tesla shares.

     
  10. Andre0087

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    Average people don't gargle Elon's balls in their mouth on the regular like some here...
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    It's not as easy as it seems...

    ‘Blood on your hands’: Zuckerberg, Big Tech CEOs face Senate grilling on child safety: Live updates


    There was a class action lawsuit among Facebook employees/contractors tasked to view reported offensive images because the company didn't give them enough mental health access or paid attention to their on the job needs. So it wasn't that the "algo sucked", it's more or less non-existent.

    I'll know it when I see it.
     
  12. Amiga

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    I believe you do need to legislate this. Social media is obviously profiting significantly from kids, and I'm not even sure if we can undo the cultural shift anymore, or if it even makes sense to. However, abusive behaviors on social media need to be prevented, especially towards kids. I might even go as far as saying there should be guardrails against misinformation and hate presented to kids.

    "Zuckerberg turned to parents of children who have died after or were seriously harmed by suffering abuse through social media.

    The Meta CEO stood from behind his microphone to apologize and insist that the company was making “industry-leading” efforts to protect children and teenagers."
     
  13. Space Ghost

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    Its certainly not the parents responsibility
     
  14. NewRoxFan

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    A sitting U.S. senator...

     
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    That's really embarrassing, but underlines what being in Congress means now: not getting work done for the American people, but grandstanding for fundraising and primary victories. That's about it. Sad!
     
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    Exactly what your Boy Scout leader said 30 years ago.
     
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  17. Amiga

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    If it’s only that simple. Let’s delve into and elaborate on this a bit.

    Did parents ten years ago grasp the potential risks their teenage girls faced on Instagram?

    Did highly intelligent adults a decade ago comprehend the societal dangers posed by social media?

    Fast forward to today, where almost every teenager has smartphones, smartwatches, and access to social media. That genie is out of the bag, and combating that cultural shift is not so simple. Protecting kids from online attacks, if they unfortunately happen, surpass the scope of parenting. They need help.

    Parents are responsible for their kids, not the behavior of other kids.

    (While my kids currently stay off social media and I aim to maintain that status for as long as possible, I’m under no delusion that they will venture into it someday).
     
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  18. Space Ghost

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    uhhh Gen X grew up on the internet as young adults. We know how bad the internet can be. There were no bubbled apps to protect us.

    If parents didn't know how bad the internet can be a decade ago, they were certainly not highly intelligent. Just naïve and stupid.

    The fact is life can't be lived in one giant perpetual bubbled room. Parents who put a lot of energy into their kids do ok. If a parent didn't shove a device in front of their face to get them to quit screaming about how all their other friends have one, perhaps they wouldn't grow up to be addicted to screens.

    Screen addiction is the problem, not the social media sites. All you're asking the social media sites to do is make their childrens screen addiction less dangerous. And adults are just as bad.
     
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    This is a frequent thing that many Americans believe that Singapore is part of “China”.
     
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