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War in The Middle East: Iran Edition

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Mar 12, 2022.

  1. tinman

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    Time to turn Syria into a parking lot
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    That's 100% bullshit - wars break out over assassination's, over disputes over resources, blockades, territory gain, wars break out all the damned time with zero concern over whose in the Whitehouse.

    Certainly if Captain bonespurs liar mcLiar was in there they would have no fear.

    DD
     
  3. AleksandarN

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    Forget Syria. Need to target those drone factories in Iran. Send a real message
     
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  6. rocketsjudoka

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    Also Iran hit a US base with missiles following the assasination of Soleimani
     
  7. basso

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    I see you got the talking points memo.
     
  8. No Worries

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    And if the attacks did happen while Trump was POTUS, they were decidedly someone else's fault.
     
  9. No Worries

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    The bodies are not even in the ground and the Rs started the "It is all Biden's fault" talking point.

    And you appear to fault Biden's team for pushing back on the Rs nonsense talking point.

    Clutch your pearls much?
     
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    I'm faulting the media, and those who spread the TPM.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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  12. tinman

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    Real people know the enemy is Iran
    Woke people think the enemy is Dave Chappelle jokes and the Mona Lisa


    @ROXRAN
    @Salvy
     
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    the real enemy is white women aka The Mona Lisa. also Iran though
     
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    Mr. Propaganda and Lies spreader forgets dead servicemen under his watch like he forgets Obama isn't President any more. He's braindead.
     
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    my how the turn tables.
     
  17. rocketsjudoka

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    Four years ago Saudi Arabia was also fighting the Houthis, the UAE and Saudi Arabia were economically blockading Qatar. While all of this was going on Netanyahu was allowing bags of cash to go to Hamas.
     
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    what was Jared Kushner doing?
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Stealing money.

    DD
     
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    October 7 was essentially Hamas' "Hail Mary" to reignite the "Palestinian cause" among Arab countries. They saw Israel normalizing relations with the UAE, Morocco, Bahrain, etc. and knew that what had once been an animating issue among Arab nations was losing its appeal.

    Money talks - the very existence of Dubai, Expo 2024 and the 2022 World Cup showed that wealthy Arab nations were elbowing their way onto the global stage and that meant normalizing relations with Israel. After all, the Israelis have money and they all want investment. The "Palestinian cause" had lost salience among Arab populations that weren't alive to remember the wars of the 1960s. Like a lot of cultural issues in the US, it had become a cudgel for more conservative factions to wield against modernizing on the West's terms.

    The big fish looming over Israeli/Arab relations is Saudi Arabia. There were rumors that, prior to October 7, Saudi Arabia and Israel were discussing normalization. This war has forced KSA back into a wait-and-see posture with Israel as it demands Palestinian statehood in exchange for normalization. I don't know whether that was on the table before October 7, but the Saudis certainly believe it has to be now.

    In regards to whether or not all of this would've happened if Donald Trump were president, that seems like a fool's errand. Trumpism demands incompatible things: isolationism, but international swagger. MAGA wants an inward focus while pretending that the world will still get in line behind our demands as we retreat from it. That's nonsensical.
     
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