lol yes, he can't shoot, you can't play another non shooter with him. Imagine sengun, allen, and brooks in the starting lineup. We would be the worst offense in the nba
The question was asked, who would "I" rather see traded of the two and "I" gave my opinion. Obviously, "MY" opinion does not concur with yours. But it does not make me ignorant. I see the game differently. I prefer players who can contribute on both sides of the court "CONSISTENTLY"
This is a really absurd thing to say. As soon as people get used to how good he is offensively, they immediately jump to "well this is as good a defender as he'll ever be." That started the day he got here, when he sucked at defense. We first said he's so bad defensively that it's impossible for him to become a franchise player, then he improved from terrible to bad. Now he's gone from bad to decent before the age of 22 and we're once again make-believing that he will not get better defensively. In a season where were a top 5 defense when healthy, and you can adjust that to top 10 if you have some gripe about the timing or strength of schedule. That's still insanely above expectations for a team starting Sengun at C. If you can have a top 10 defense with someone starting, you're a good enough defensive team to win a title. All you need is top 10 defense and top 10 offense. Not to mention he's a 3pt shot away from being so insanely impactful on offense that he is worth the max. There are exactly 0 players in NBA history who can get you 25/9/5 on 54/lets-say-36/72 splits, can score inside and out and are not worth the max. Sengun is going to achieve those numbers (probably with FT% increasing as well) before his contract is up. Look at the trajectory of his stats despite us being an ultra low possession team compared to last season. This guy is sky rocketing. Oh and btw, the coach who is critical of his defense is not happy with anyone's defense if it's not all-defensive team calibre. That's not indicating Sengun is bad, it's indicating Udoka is hard on people about defense and self-admittedly hard on Sengun with his criticism. Sengun is going to be a good defender by his mid 20's. More muscle, fitness, experience is all he needs. He's a way better defender than 99% of people predicted he could be before this season. The improvement he showed in half a season under Udoka has been tremendous. You are just causing yourself stress if you think there's even a 1% chance anyone in the organization wants to trade Sengun.
But you will be crucified for not trading Sengun and getting a rim protector. These three players are short and will not get us into the playoffs following the logic of some posters.
Their centers, including Cartwright were not rim protectors by any means. Yes, wing defenders especially with the current three point shooting efficiency of shooters are a premium more than an actual classic rim protector. You just never liked Sengun from the moment he donned a Rockets uniform. Just admit it.
Not true on both fronts. Im a fan of all Rockets, still a fan of Sengun, Im just saying his flaws are profound on the defensive end. Im just not as high on him as you and others. Same for other Rocket players. The Bull centers during Jordan and Pippen's era were big. They're only role was to was just that....be big. Rebound, block off driving lanes, and be effective around the rim.
Bc he is good and getting better. His biggest weakness is defense and he is improving Also bc he is the best player we have to build around. He is not afraid of the responsibility and has shown willingness to improve
If your franchise player is as bad on defense as Sengun then they better have otherworldly levels of offensive ability that can compensate for it.. see jokic, Nash, curry, harden, dirk
You're obviously high on Sengun and thats your opinion but I disagree on giving him the max. The team defense has improved and I think its largely because of the coaching. But it has fallen off and I think that's because of players are starting to resort back to who they are. Yes, players can improve and yes they can transform their bodies but at the end of the day, you are who you are. Its just like Luka, Larry Bird, Jokic, who slimmed down but he is still slow. So, I ask you, besides getting bigger, what has changed about Sengun since he arrived 2 yrs ago? Is he quicker, do he jump higher? does he have more stamina? The one thing I see is that he has gotten bigger but to get where you want him to be, I think he needs to be quicker. But I just don't ever see him as a rim protector or becoming an above avg defender. Its just what I see.
He was always quick enough and jumped high enough. Not to be an elite defender, but to be a decent defender. He is obviously much faster than Jokic and noticeably taller and stronger than Luka. As far as the Larry Bird name drop, like... what? The 3x all-defensive second team Larry Bird? That Larry Bird? He was a fantastic defensive player, so I'm just scratching my head at that one. I do agree that you need to surround him with above-average rim protection at other positions... but we're already doing that. Jabari is 6'11" and is #7 among power forwards in blocks per game. Tari is 6'8" and if you assume he is our small forward of the future, he will be an excellent shotblocker at that position--good athleticism & long wingspan, currently averaging 1.4 blocks per 36 minutes. Amen and Cam are both insane vertical athletes, and Amen pairs that with a 7'0" wingspan and great instincts--he will become the best shotblocking point guard in the league if he plays starter minutes. All we really need is a good backup center, and that's not too hard to find. You really should get off this obsession. You're just not correct, either about Sengun or about our overall roster situation. A lot of our issues right now are just inconsistency and injury problems and you're reading far too much into them. Consistency will come with experience, and health is always a factor that can go wrong for any team.
