Let's see... 911 was called to report an assault At the time girlfriend was bleeding from lacerations to the face Said girlfriend's sister lights up KPJ on Twitter Said girlfriend breaks up with KPJ Waits over an ENTIRE MONTH to come out to offer some sort of defense KPJ now accepts a plea deal to avoid jail time Meanwhile DD, the king of doubling down, is still here trying to claim no actual abuse took place. Classic! If KPJ was completely innocent, why break up with him? Why wait over a month to talk bout it? Hell, why did KPJ accept the plea agreement if he was in fact innocent?
According to the person who just pleaded guilty in court to assault charges - Kevin Porter Jr - it did happen.
For guys like DD etc. it is mostly black and white but those things can all be true.... Does not have to be mutually exclusive.... KPJ is a monster when the media circus first reported. A temporary beast KPJ and Kysre had a Bonnie and Clyde, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde relationship. Then KPJ is a kid that needs help and is a victim of his childhood and not having a proper Dad. Rafael Stone who hails from Seattle and Tilman Fertitta liked KPJ on a personal level. Alperen Sengün was supposed to be the Man but they named KPJ head honcho. KPJ is a charming individual and has a troubled pyche. KPJ is not a winning player and only looks for his stats and looking good. At that night in New York's hotel room something violent happened......Kysre could not walk after that and KPJ was present and either intoxicated and/or in a state of fury. The Arrest and the subsequent Media circus. Rockets cut ties and traded him. OKC relatively soon waived him..... Pending Investigation by Silver and Plea deal...... Kysre doing PR damage control for both KPJ and herself.
Look, man…I know you stick to your guns with a lot of things here. I can respect that with all the heat you take. Still, this is not the hill you want to die on.
Hey Clutchfans Im recalibrating my morale compass could you knights in shining armor tell me whats worse --- beating up your GF or fking a 15 year old and then using the "I thought she was 18" excuse?
Beating up your girlfriend is significantly worse than being successfully lied to by a minor. Should either permanently end a player's career? No.
Avoiding a criminal record doesn't change the fact that kpj plead guilty. Plenty of dudes avoid getting a criminal record by taking plea bargain, doesn't make them innocent either
Interesting. You do know that a child lying about their age would not hold up in court right? Especially when the child in question was definitely in a "relationship" with the adult so the one off club bang doesnt really hold water, but I had always been under the impression that the safety of our children vs predators was of a higher concern (while not diminishing domestic violence at all). It still warms my heart to hear our population let the creeps know how they feel about them. I would expect the same for all the other wife beaters the league has enjoyed, but gauging the response that the kiddy banger enjoys at each arena I would probably disagree with your rankings. I mean this very board harbors some guys who went all the way back to the Dark Ages to make explanations on why it should be OK to knock down underage girls. Even the anecdotal "My mee maw and paw paw got married at 12 so it should be OK" example was startling to read from people here who were so vocal about domestic violence. So wife beating bad. Kid fking good as long as they lie. Got it.
I know you are quite the pearl clutcher when it comes to the subject and you think that someone who is successfully lied to by someone using fake id's should be castrated and put in a wood chipper or whatever, but that's not a sane opinion and I don't think engaging with extremists like you really furthers the conversation. Situations involving intentional deception or different cultural norms are complex and simple minded extremist nonsense isn't appropriate when dealing with complex issues like that.
You are saying that fking a minor is OK when they lie about their age. Im trying to educate you in the legality of your position and Im the extremist? Make sure to check those IDs when cruising the high schools Bobby. Cultural norms? So Australia is chill with fking minors? I dont think so since the creep in question has been cancelled over there too. "Complex issues" LMAO
Everyone talking about what KPJ maybe did or didn't do. Meanwhile, no one talks about what NYPD and the DA actually did - Filed false charges and had a whole press conference lying about what occured. The fact that people don't care about this part let's me know it's a waste of time going back and forth with anyone here regarding KPJ. Police were called to the scene. If there were any lacerations and blood all over his gf's face there would be photos somewhere. This was a lie - both KPJ's attorney and his gf attorney said these were lies. One of the first things police officers do is take photos of the victims injuries. DA claimed to have witnesses, but no videos or photos. Why did the gf wait a month to speak publicly? Not everyone wants the world to know their business. She said she tried to handle it all privately, but the DA continued to pursue false charges against KPJ. She spent that month also having to fight her own battle with NYPD and DA for violating her rights. She came out publicly when she was ready (had to hire an attorney) and felt it was necessary. In her own words - NYPD and the DA created false charges to try to send a black man to jail. Again - no one seems to want to discuss this part. I no longer wonder why. Kysre's sister went off on Instagram based off what was reported by the media, not Kysre. I don't believe he didn't do anything at all, but it's nothing near what was reported. NYPD ****ed up and had to charge him with something. The harassment charge is bullshit. Probably because he kept trying to get into his hotel room and the gf said he couldn't come in. According to "sources" she was sleep when he came in. But Kysre didn't give a statement to the police. KPJ's attorney said the police lied. His gf and her attorney said the police lied. There are no photos of her being injured anywhere online but most of you still believe without a reasonable doubt that he's guilty of everything the police and media reported. She's a light-skinned woman so cuts/bruises would easily show. Imagine the police having a press conference accusing Josh Giddey of having sexual relations with an underage girl even after the victim said it never happened. Why did he accept a plea deal if he wasnt guilty? You have a corrupt police force and DA hell bent on sending this man to jail whether he committed a crime or not. There's no telling how much money he spent on attorneys so far. The longer he's in court, the more money he has to spend (I doubt he's great at managing money), and the longer he has to wait until he's back in the NBA. Since this won't go on his criminal record, he could have just been ready to move on. I believe even if the charges were dropped most of you would still think he did all of that. I've seen posters still talk about Kobe being a r@pist after the accuser. I've seen people still talk about Calvin Murphy and false accusations as if he really did it. I heard from his kids own mouths that they lied because they were upset over money. NYPD/DA is notorious for arresting black men who haven't committed crimes and/or giving longer sentences than other races for the same crime. I'm not about to respond to all the quotes individually. I don't have that kind of time. But if KPJ really did that then there's no reason to lie and create false narratives. The DA should go to jail for what they did. The reason why most of you still believe KPJ did what was reported has nothing to do with facts or evidence. The fact no one talks about how corrupt the NYPD is - it's alarming but expected. People scream how racism no longer exists. Well exhibit A shows there's still a problem. A problem no one wants to acknowledge. He was traded/waived based off what was reported. Not based off evidence. I hope they sign him back. If he did and were to play well, all of this negative talk about him would go right out the window. I've been around long enough to see how y'all operate. I wish nothing but the best for KPJ. I hope this was an eye opening experience for him. I wish the best for everyone, because that's who I am. From the jump I just never believed he did all of what was reported. Literally throwing his life and career away over not being able to get in his hotel room. It never made sense to me. I also hope y'all have a beautiful day.
I heard he was just outon the court and he crossed over from "I'm innocent" to "I plead guilty the the charge of 3rd degree assault" - his crossover was so quick some people like @DaDakota still think he's in the same place!
That's exactly the kind of take is expect from an extremist simpleton. No one argued about the law.... that's why it's such a bad thing that she lied the way she did. Someone being lied to can land them in jail. We were discussing morality.... and what she did was FAR more morally wrong than what he did. Again kid, this kind of conversation is simply over your head. Also..... the age of consent in Australia is 16, which she potentially was at the time. So that would mean the relationship would likely have been outright legal.....so maybe you need to throw your tampon at them for not agreeing with your extremism.
“@kevinporterjr if you think you gone touch my sister & not get touched. Count ya f****** days. Better hope and pray you'll be able to ever walk again let alone dribble. You may have gotten away with this s*** in the past cause yo mama ain't beat ya a** but we spank lil punk a** painting nail sissy b***** like you everyday. Don't show up to that crib. We gone do it to you. Lil b****.” Hmm... I wonder what his girlfriend told her sister for her sister to come at Porter like this? This case is a lot like the Warren Moon case - the one where Moon choked his wife and beat her and she denied it and said that the police were picking on her husband.
I've never done that either. The facts are no one knows the facts and you don't have the right to judge him - because you feel what he's done is worse than what you've done. A sin is a sin. His mistakes are publicly known, yours aren't. For all I know you may not want to tell people what all you've done. "I'm not a sociopath, blah blah blah." Fact is, if he's sociopath/psychopath then he won't be in the NBA long if he gets signed to a team. If he's psychotic then what the hell is wrong with the Rockets? What the hell is wrong with the NBA? I think most of you here are psychotic and don't like black men (unless they're entertaining you) based off what I've seen. That doesn't make me right though. Although I do have retired and current NBA friends who have said the same thing. I know you have inside information from time to time but I'm much further in.
She posted that based off what the media reported. The same as the Rockets removing KPJ from the team based off what was reported.
So lying is morally more repugnant than fking a minor because of the lie! Amazing. Word of advice Bobby - dont fk kids and dont beat your wife. Both are equally bankrupt in morality. You just gave the perfect example of the bipolar BS that goes on around here while looking for an excuse for the sickness. "kid" -- LOL the irony!
