https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...cratic-candidates-stolen-election/1116477001/ "You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you," she said to cheers on the Los Angeles stop of her Spoiler She claimed the election was stolen, she did it several times and she said Trump was an illegitimate president. Its the same thing, both Hillary and Trump claimed their elections were stolen. One by massive mail in voting and one by Russia, the point isn't how it was stolen.... Its that both are claiming that it was stolen but I get why you feel its different, because one is orange man bad and the other is Hillary. This isn't about republicans or democrats. Its about political figures implying or claiming fraud or stolen elections. Its going to continue happening, ensuring trust in our elections should be the most important thing this year. Conservatives don't trust mail in voting, whether its due to Trump claiming that's how the election was stolen or to the odd election night in 2020 or conspiracy theories that does not mean that you take nearly half of the population and completely disregard their concerns for election integrity. The safest and best way to vote is to go in person, it will always be this way. There are no negatives to voting in person, dems say voting by mail is just as safe but that's just simply because that's what their political figures have told them. And dems will fight tooth and nail to defend mail in voting because accepting voting in person is safer and better still leavess a window cracked open about the controversial 2020 election. There are no reasons for mail in voting this November, if you don't want people claiming voter fraud for the next 4 years then address the issue and make sure we have an election everyone can trust. The one's asking for people to vote differently than the past 45 years are dem's, conservatives are just asking for elections to be ran in a normal setting the way it had been since the beginning. If you have a problem with that despite knowing mail in voting in mass numbers is messy, controversial, untrusted and lengthy, then that is a bit suspicious.
Cameltoe Harris just said confidently that she and G I don’t want Joe will be back for 4 more years no matter who they are running against. I told you guys they will steal this one too, if it works before, why not do it again? If we have another stolen election, I believe Jan 6th will look like a backyard picnic because civil war would be upon us thanks to all of you Dems.
It’s much easier to cheat by mail in voting. It’s much harder to cheat when voting in person by pen and paper ballot. This is common sense but the Dems would pulled all sorts of wizardry to convince you otherwise.
I despise Hillary Clinton. I think Hillary Clinton Bad. So bad I couldn't convince myself to vote for her despite the fact that Trump is dangerous. I don't agree with what Hillary said, but it isn't on par with Trump. I think it was a lot of sour grapes, but it was at least based on something that happened. She didn't try to prevent him from becoming President after he was elected.
Oh she did look into preventing Trump from becoming president. https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/hillary-clinton-2016-trump/index.html Hillary Clinton just floated the possibility of contesting the 2016 election The difference between 2016 and 2020 was mainly mail in voting, there was no push from either side for it and everyone went and voted the way it had been for the past 45 years. People trusted this process and the results were in that very night. Dem's screamed Russian interference but it didn't gain much traction because people trusted the election. Trump became president and the rest is history. To be clear, I have never stated mail in voting is new. Its been around since forever, its always served a purpose and it will always serve a purpose. And that purpose is for people that can not physically make it to the polling station. It should have never been used for a presidential election on a massive scale. Flash forward to 2020 and Dem's incorporated this alternative way to vote which was meant for people who could not be at the polls physically. They push for it hard, Trump come's out says don't use it because this is how they will try and steal the election. What is wrong with Trump wanting people to vote in person? How dare Trump petitions for a legitimate traditional ballot that is harder to manufacture and corrupt. Election night the public see weird $hit associated to mail in voting and it takes days to get the results. That's how you lose the publics trust. The only people who 100% trust the election are the one's who won. For those that lost, tough $hit is what they say. And when people dare ask for a normal traditional election they get insulted. What's wrong with in person voting for 2024?
Honestly, I'd be more sympathetic to MAGAs upset that SCOTUS took away their candidate than I would be to Dems upset that they let him stay. Either way, though, it is the proper role for SCOTUS to decide his eligibility so there won't be anything stolen on the basis of their decision. But, yeah, there's going to be a lot of upset people no matter what, and resentment will probably linger for another generation to come. The only way we could have avoided this fate was if Republicans had come to their senses and rejected Trump's stolen election nonsense and his candidacy for another run at the outset. That opportunity was foreclosed.
She didn't float the possibility. That is really trying to extrapolate what she said, which was if it was discovered she might. Voting in person can take hours. I was at my polling place in line for early voting a couple years ago and the guy in front of me passed out and was taken by ambulance to the hospital. You lose the public's trust by lying so often you can't tell the difference between lies and truth.
I dont think people understand the ramifications of removing the lead candidate off the ballot. The Democrats have fumbled the Trump fiasco since he won. I have zero confidence in the Democrats. Jan 6th was well over 3 years ago and now they are going to let the SCOTUS decide if he was guilty of insurrection? How do you think they will rule? Do Democrats really think the solid majority of Americans think Trump should be removed from that ballet at this point? I have said this plenty; The Republican party is trash. I expect nothing from the Republican party. But this does not give automatic loyalty to Democrats. I haven't voted for Trump, I will never vote for Trump and I am not going to vote Biden.
Tell me, what are the ramifications? What are the ramifications of Conservative constitutional scholars saying he should be disqualified and publishing an academic paper on it—the paper in which the ruling from the CO Supreme Court uses for their rationale for disqualification? What about the lawsuit in CO made by Republicans and Independents to remove Trump from the ballots, which ended up ruling in their favor? Now, what would be the ramifications of stopping all of that? To disallow or prevent Conservatives from publishing their paper and these individuals from CO from bringing the lawsuit? Is that really the system you want to live in—removing the right of scholars to publish and individuals to bring lawsuits because we should be very afraid of the ramifications? Perhaps of a group of cult members that Trump has again asked to turn violent if the SCOTUS ruled against him? Is that what we should avoid at all costs, including suppressing individual rights and freedom to hold officials accountable to the Constitution of the US?
It's beyond ridiculous that people are even trying to make the Hillary vs Donnie did the same thing argument. It's one thing to b**** and complain about the election being stolen, rigged, influenced, whatever but an entirely different beast when you start implementing a plan to do so. Insurrection act, fake electors across multiple states, calling for the MAGA nutjobs to run on the Capitol and stop a joint session of Congress from fulfilling their duty. It's disturbing such a broad amount of our population have been conned into this way of thinking and I don't know if we will ever see sane politics in this country again.
I think voting should be simple and easy. Widespread voter fraud in order to turn a Presidential election is going to impossible without voter machine hacking or an election like 2000 where it was just so damn close, and even with that, it is an extreme statistical improbability. Local elections are far more likely to be affected due to sample size. Here in my local city (which I don't actually live in the limits so I can't vote), one of the council people lost by a single vote. Which is pretty crazy.
