there needs to be assurances that tunnels will be banned as well in the future - there is no need for it considering what tunnels were used for ... I would love to see nothing but a different mindset from Palestinian people in the future in which they take responsibility for supporting Hamas and make amends to completely distance that ugly past - that I would support, and I would want the best for them
The PA fought a civil war with Hamas and lost. That’s one of the reasons why Hamas controls Gaza. They’ve been also been helped because the Likud government allowed aid, even bags of cash, to go to Hamas to undermine the PA. That’s interesting because didnt you say 2 million Palestinian casualties would be justified? The IDF in this campaign has also done things Like bomb areas that they told Palestinians would be safe areas. You in a post above already acknowledge the difficulty of avoiding civilian casualties and justify the death of civilians. Collective punishment though is much more than this current conflict. It’s preventing the Palestinians as a whole, both Gaza and the West Bank, from building a viable economy. It’s taking Palestinian land often against Israel’s own law. It’s attacking the PA for actions taken by other groups. It’s the belief that the Palestinian people as a whole are responsible for Oct. 7.
And in previous conflicts why didn’t Israel take the opportunity to help rebuild? Why did Israel tacitly support Hamas over the PA the last decade? To cite another historical example. After WWI the allies took the attitude that Germany was responsible and instead of rebuilding Germany took punitive measures against the German economy and seized German territory. Extremists like Hitler used that to fuel nationalism and resentment towards the Allies. Rather than make Germany more moderate and cooperative it made Germany more belligerent and extreme.
The Palestinian people are responsible when they overwhelmingly support Hamas - yes - what I said about 2 million was not just talking about killing civilians for no reason ,...I'm talking about whether an enemy that wants to kill you is two people or 2 million people they need to dealt with This is almost hypothetical and nothing beyond - but at the same time you can't cheer on desecrated bodies of young women being cheered on and spat on by the supposed innocent civilians- there is nothing innocent about that, and if the Israelis did the same act, I would have equal condemnation what you support does have consequences and unfortunately those in Gaza are seeing that and ultimately paying for that but at the same time it's a byproduct of willingly being intertwined with Hamas and its structures within schools, hospitals etc
@rocketsjudoka Also I don't want all 2 million gazas dead, get that out of your head -you are confused again apparently - on the contrary - I want them to denounce Hamas, they don't need to pledge allegiance to the Israel flag but I expect a formal apology for Oct7 - I expect an erected memorial especially in Gaza for the 1200 mostly civilians that were butchered by Hamas and cheered on by civilians as a reminder to future generations of the horrible atrocity committed because of what the supported . I want underground tunnels banned and a committed liason with Israel on positive relations I want reeducation camps that educate the youth properly and teach about the dangers of supporting a terrorist regime and how an actual government should behave that represents the whole I want assurances Oct 7 never happens again Once this happens do you agree this would benefit and be a start for post war Gaza after Hamas is eradicated? / Death to Hamas ! Sorry @trustme that kinda applies to you huh
the fighting on the western front was (largely) done in France and Belgium. the German economy was destroyed, but the country/cities were intact.
This is not at all the same problem as saying that the building cannot be built. Costs can vary for many reasons. Building the part of a wall that is further away from where your supplies are stored will cost more than building the closer part. That doesn't make it less effective once it is built. Again, this is a question of cost, not effectiveness. There is no place on the southern border that cannot be reached, so there is no area that cannot be manned. Once again, you are bringing up costs, which are irrelevant to my initial statement. I'll give it to you again. My claim - any greater length of wall with the same per unit length security is equally effective as the original wall. The claim (in the language of the claim itself) assumes the same level of security along every unit length of the wall. A counter argument that some portion of the wall will not be manned because it would cost more or would cost more to build or would not be built because it would cost more or any other counterargument related to cost would not be responsive to that claim. In order to disprove the claim, you would have to prove that a three mile wall guarded by 9 people is less effective than a 6 mile wall guarded by 18 people at keeping people from moving from one side of the wall to the other.
Why is dumb Trumper wall logic invading the borders of this topic? Just get mexico to pay for it and their criminally challenged migrants will even build it for us! Easy peasy! It's the slam dunkiest of all slam dunks! 4 moar years 4 Donny to git it dun!! LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP!!!
There's no limit to how shameless authoritarian regimes can get when they have total control over the media Terrorism in Iran Exposes a Vulnerability It Doesn’t Want to Admit https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/world/middleeast/iran-terrorism-isis-israel.html For years Iran justified its military presence in Iraq and Syria, to its own people and the world, as a strategy for keeping terrorist groups at bay. Iranian officials frequently boasted that fighting terrorists directly or through proxy militias in the region meant they didn’t have to fight them at home. That sense of security was shattered on Wednesday, with the deadliest terrorist attack since the 1979 founding of the Islamic Republic — two suicide explosions in the city of Kerman that killed 88 people, including 30 children, and injured more than 200. The Islamic State, a mortal enemy of Iran, claimed responsibility. Yet even after the statement by the terrorist group, Iranian officials and pundits close to the government insisted — as they had in the immediate aftermath of the attack — that another enemy, Israel, was to blame. Tasnim News Agency, the media arm of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, went as far as claiming that “Israel ordered ISIS to take responsibility for the attack.” And President Ibrahim Raisi, speaking at a ceremony in Kerman honoring the victims on Friday, said Iran would retaliate and blamed both Israel and the United States. Whatever the officials really think, blaming Israel and the United States is far more convenient, some analysts and opponents of the government say, than admitting that the state cannot protect its people from terrorism. The attack punctures the image of Iran as capable of flexing its might in wars around the region without suffering such large-scale retaliation at home. The ministry of intelligence said on Friday that 12 people in six different provinces had been arrested in connection with the attack, but did not elaborate on their identities or affiliations. It said one of the suicide bombers was from Tajikistan but the identity of the second one was not yet confirmed. The statement also said security agents had discovered the place in Kerman where the attackers had stayed and arrested two of their accomplices. ... The suicide bombings on Wednesday struck a memorial for Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, on the anniversary of his killing in 2020 by a U.S. drone strike in Iraq. General Suleimani had directed the crucial role played by Iran and its allies in the military defeat in Syria and Iraq of the Islamic State, a Sunni Muslim extremist group that sees Iran’s Shiite Muslim majority as heretics. But the U.S. accused him of orchestrating attacks on American military in the region, enabling Iran to gain dominance in postwar Iraq, and arming militant groups fighting Israel. The Islamic State also took responsibility for a 2018 attack at an Iranian military parade that killed 25 people — and the government vowed revenge against the United States, Gulf Arab nations and Israel. ISIS also claimed two separate attacks by gunmen raiding a Shia shrine in Shiraz in 2022 and 2023 that killed about a dozen people.
