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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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    Well seeing that the border between the occupied territory and Egypt is 7 miles and the USA/Mexico border is nearly 2,000 miles - maybe there is a big difference
     
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    I notice people will compare walls around houses and other small areas with the US Mexico border
     
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    This seems more comparable to life in Israel for Arab-Israelis and Muslims of Palestinian descent; and to life in Canada & for Arab-Americans in the United States to some degree, the U.K....moreso than it does for Palestinians (and even less so for minorites, women, homosexuals and infidels) under Hamas rule in Gaza or under Islamic State rule.

    The difference between where you live in occupied territory is that First Nations peoples and their leaders long ago decided to live in peace and do not commit terrorist attacks against your family.

    How about you, personally? Do you enjoy freedom and security? Do you support freedom, liberty, unalienable rights, the pursuit of happiness and Democracy found in Canada and the United States (and to a high degree for Arab-Israelis in Israel)? Or do you support Sharia law, Islamic State, Taliban or Hamas rule? Honestly. Do you think Palestinians would be better off living under Hamas rule, Islamic State rule, sharia or the type of rule you & your family choose to live under in Canada & the U.S.? Hamas rule or the way of life Arab-Israeli citizens enjoy?

    Do you support Human Rights issues in Islamic naions? Certainly, you know by now what life has been like for Gazans under Hamas rule.

    Do you think Palestinian leaders and people should take an approach more similar to First Nations peoples whose lands you currently occupy and choose a path of peace?

    What do you want Israel to do? Not exist as a nation? Grant Israeli citizenship to all Palestinians under one state? Go back to pre-'67 borders? Tear down the border walls? Have Hamas, Islamic State rule over the river to the sea? Have Jews & Christians live as dhimmis under sharia? Or do you think Israel should govern a Democratic society where citizens enjoy freedom, liberty, unalienable rights and the pursuit of happiness like you enjoy?
     
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    fascists often have this one problem they never can overcome:

    They cannot attribute more than one trait to a group of people that they aren't part of. They reduce a group of humans to one motivation like religion.

    A group that isn't part of you always has singular motivations like religion and cannot fathom that they also have basic Maslow hierarchy of needs.

    How many Muslims you think walk around with their main goal day to day installing a worldwide caliphate?
     
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    Disgusting by the IDF

     
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    The real antisemitic terrorists are the Zionists

     
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    The difference is just that one would be the other 300 times in a row. If 7 miles of wall work, then 70, 700, 7000, or 7000000 miles would work, you would just need to have the same level of security along the whole thing. There is no magical length at which walls lose effectiveness.
     
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    So put more border walls in highly trafficked and easy to access areas along the U.S. border (which we already do) because clearly, walls are a good way of keeping people out of places.

    If you make illegally crossing the U.S. border more dangerous and burdensome (forcing them further away from civilization into more harsh and remote terrain), less people will be inclined to do it.

    You're disingenuously suggesting every single inch of the border needs a wall.
     
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    First they say, "Walls don't work" like a blanket statement - clearly ridiculous, walls work all the time and have done for thousands of years.

    Then they say, "That wall wouldn't work the border is too long" - So don't put a wall every square inch of the border... put more walls where they would be most effective.... like the 700 miles of wall we already have... put in place by various administrations...

    Obviously, if you put walls up in the most easily accessible places a long the border people who wish to cross will be forced to travel further, hazard themselves more and pay more money to reach inaccessible and remote places along the border... reducing the amount of people willing to hazard such a journey.
     
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    Way too many.

    More than there are Jews, in total.
     
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    Nothing can be believed that comes out of the mouth of a Zionist

     
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    Not sure why prev link isn’t working. Looks like the Zionists didn’t like the wording of the tweet so made a phone call…




    The third hostage said it was by an IDF strike.
     

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