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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. astros123

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    Im so tired of people white washing trump. Trump sat there in the oval office during Jan 6 and told his aides that the rioters cared more about the stolen election than congress did. When mark meadows told Trump that rioters wanted to hang mike pence trumps response was, "he should've done the right thing" and we're here claiming that biden is more dangerous? Trump did everything in his power to stay in power on january 6. He tried sending us law enforcement to mess with voting machines, he tried sending fake electors, he told the doj to find ways to keep him in power and find fraud, he did tried to tell mike pence to do something which he wasnt even allowed to do.

    We need to stop sugar coating and white washing who trump is. If you still vote for him you're a traitor to the country and no white washing can take away from facts from January 6.
     
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    Yeah, they want to vote for someone who may never allow them to meaningfully vote again. They don't understand that President Biden's willingness to lose an election embodies the very freedom they think Trump is defending.

    They want a dictator.
     
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  3. astros123

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    But then just be honest about it? To sit here and claim biden is somehow more dangerous than Trump is just braindead low iq thing to say @tmacfor35 . Just be real and say you bootlick a facist .

    I don't know why trumpers have to hide behind fake policy positions that trump didn't even do. It's just pathetic
     
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  4. Amiga

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    The border is an issue, one that we've known about for a long time. It will only get worse with climate change devastating southern regions. Long term, if today is bad, it's going to be devastating. The solution to it requires politicians on both sides working together, and that can never happen as long as the extremes on both sides hold the status quo, as they have for decades, and not allow any progress toward any solution. This is a political issue caused by the two extremes, and unfortunately, the extreme is growing in power, not less.

    With that said, there is a lot of misinformation and a lack of understanding of our immigration laws, especially as related to the southern border. People wanting the border to 'shutdown' I take to mean controlled, not completely shut down. But whatever the case, the border simply cannot be 'shutdown,' period, unless you completely ignore US laws and US courts, or unless there is another national health emergency (e.g., COVID). The laws created (during the 70s, if I recall correctly, and updated a few times since) moved the US toward international laws as related to asylum-seeking and refugees. Basically, anyone can cross the border and legally ask for asylum. The US can't easily block them or boot them out without 'processing' them. Everyone recognizes the laws are outdated, and our immigration system is broken, but most seem to believe the administration can somehow magically fix it. Just no. The only way the border can be 'shutdown' or better controlled, or immigration processed in a timely matter (instead of months to years of waiting in the US while they are being processed) is if Congress changes the law and/or provides funding for extra patrols, immigration judges, etc. As it stands now, there is not much Biden (or any past or future POTUS) can do. Biden has tried, and the Court has shut him down repeatedly. He's still trying (working with Mexico and others to control migrant flow through them), but all of those are really working at the edges and at best is a patch. Major and lasting changes require Congress to update the law and add funding so that the US isn't in the situation where you can cross the border at any ports or any location, claim asylum, and stay in the US until a decision can be made. Congress has refused to act for decades.

    As related to national security, if it is completely compromised at this point due to the border situation, it has been compromised many times and for extended periods over the last four decades since we have had a higher rate of migrants crossing the borders in the past. The truth is it is not compromised, and that idea is mostly political talk by politicians to scare you. Also, people might not realize one thing when it comes to 'illegal immigrants.' For the past few years, the main driver of new illegal immigrants is not at the southern border. It's through visa overstays.
     
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  5. astros123

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    Today trumps lawyers are arguing that as president trump can order executions of his political rivals and it will be perfectly legal! But sure biden is more dangerous claims MAGATs

    Yes totally sane human being we have here
     
  6. deb4rockets

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    There is nothing sane about Trump. Nothing!
    The guy belongs in a mental ward in prison.
     
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    Now we find out that Fani Willis, the corrupt DA in Georgia "prosecuting" Trump for investigating voter fraud, was paying her lover over $600k in taxpayer dollars. Her lover just so happens to be the special prosecutor on the Trump case in Georgia.

    Abusing the legal system to target a political rival, inappropriate relationship, corrupt payments... is this Georgia or Africa? Honestly. These people have no business prosecuting President Trump. They are a total joke.

    These false legal attacks on Trump are just cratering right before our eyes. None have merit.
     
  8. No Worries

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    Trump wants, for his own benefit, for the US economy to crash and burn in 2024, so he can be re-elected.

    What a stand up guy.

     
  9. deb4rockets

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    So Patriotic! Seriously, his allegiance is to himself. Screw the rest of the Americans.
     
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    They all are rotten. Biden is in office despite dropping the N bomb several times on camera. Why hasn't the media just ran that in to the ground and blacklisted him like any other celebrity or figure that did "blackface" etc. Now he represents the dem establishment. That is crazy to me. These people are just puppets. I really don't get worked up any more about who is and isn't president.
     
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    This is hilarious. The establishment has got a hold of you private part. Lord, wake up.
     
  12. deb4rockets

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    They might all be rotten, but Trump is the only psychopath and wannabe Dictator. He doesn't have a single trait that is worthy of leading a country. Not a single one. He is probably the only candidate who can't utter a single speech without throwing in lies. He is incapable of telling the truth. Others might lie once in awhile, but nobody lies compulsively every time they open their mouth. I doubt there is another candidate incapable of feeling remorse or empathy either. That's just not natural. It's one of the traits of a psychopath.
     
  13. tmacfor35

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    I understand your view point. Mine is different in reasoning, but you feel strongly about it and theres nothing wrong with it. I won't hate on that. Conservatives have been begging for a younger, more up to date candidate for a long time. We just get stuck with crap each time....
     
  14. astros123

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    The funniest thing MAGA cultists say is when they think they're somehow the anti establishment LOL.

    -trump passed largest tax cut in modern history which 80% of benefits went to the top 1%
    - deregulated the banking industry to lower capital requirements for banks
    - deregulated the train industry to remove safety precautions
    - removed overtime/workforce hazard pay for small builders
    - approved more M&A mergers than literally almost anyone else

    How you morons so utterly braindead dumb that you think somehow you are anti establishment. Trump did nothing other than ass kiss wall street in office lmao

    MAGA are the dumbest people alive

    Biden dropped the n bomb numerous times??? Can you share the video clips of him saying the n word ?
     
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  15. tmacfor35

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    Really interesting case study of someone classifying others as being "dumb" for not being sheep and having a different perspective.

    Oh, and all the reasons you mention are not what classifies someone as being establishment or not. This is great lmao.
     
  16. astros123

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    Sheep? Were liberals the dipshit morons who tried to storm the capital cuz our cult leader told them the election was stolen? It's hilarious how right wingers can never debate the facts of January 6. They'll just pivot to calling you some name. "Sheep" "establishment" = not being a low iq dipshit believing election conspiracies

    Again you just said biden has dropped the N word repeatedly as president. Where's the video of him dropping the N word repeatedly? Can you post the video
     
  17. Andre0087

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    People that use keywords like deep state, establishment, freedom, liberty, etc. just ooze of the opposite. No one can change your propaganda fed mindset so carry on and go vote Trump if he's not in a prison cell by November or removed from the ballot.
     
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    After the January 6 riot don't forget trump raised over 60 million dollars in "fight election fraud" from his supporters and he didn't spend a single dollar of that money to pay his lawyers. The audacity of these r****ds @tmacfor35 to call others sheep when all these folks do is worship their cult leader is hilarious.

    These folks get scammed by trump every day and they still call others sheep. I've never seen a more dumber group of people in my entire life
     
  19. tmacfor35

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    I've seen it. I don't need to go find it. Go find it yourself if you are so amped up.

    Just because extremist "storm" the capital it doesn't classify a whole group. This is just weird logic on your part. Its truly a bizarre short minded way of thinking.

    Elections have been stolen in other countries. Election fraud is real. A lot of weird circumstances had election night. Why do you have an issue about someone trying to look in to that? Fair elections is part of a democracy.

    Biden couldn't fill a 20 person room, and people really think he pulled the most votes in history. I find it pretty comical personally, but it is what it is at this point. I've said before. Our country has already been taken over by the wrong people and has for a while.
     
  20. tmacfor35

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    Just because you are conservative... doesn't mean Trump is your cult leader. I feel like I am talking to my 4 year old. Can't dissociate groups for the life of her. You seem to struggle with the same issues.
     

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