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[Pathetic] Pray for Victor

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RKREBORN, Feb 20, 2023.

  1. daywalker02

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    In light of that actually, he decided that days ago.

    The league will turn this into Bizzarro turns Superman later.
     
  2. GOATuve

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    I don't think that I am setting the bar high at all. Look at what OKC is doing.
     
  3. GOATuve

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    On Cam I'd like to know more about his free fall. I don't think it was entirely based on medical as every team has doctors and access to all of that stuff. If I had to venture a guess it would be attitude and how he carries himself on the court when he isn't the focal point.

    He's a lottery ticket to me. All the talent in the world and we have the perfect coach to work with it if he buys in
     
  4. rocketchamp

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    Yeah you're a idiot. What exactly has he done well? How about turn this franchise around in 3 years. The fact we're this young & playing winning basketball consistently is commendable, given ppl like you criticized him trading Harden for just draft capital. Bottom line, he pulled the right strings and we're one of the best young up & coming teams now.

    How can you criticize him for his past moves, but NOT give him credit for putting out a winning product this year? Its a personal dislike that alot of you aren't admitting regarding Rafael Stone smh
     
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    Good post. The funny part is the same guys rave about Udoka, Sengun and us winning. But refuse to give the GM credit that created it lol. Which one is it? If you love our roster you love Rafael Stone
     
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  6. Houston77

    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    I’d say we’ve arguably done better than OKC in many respects. Not to mention they started their rebuild a year before us in 2019. The major difference is that OKC got Shai in the Clippers’ trade — we didn’t get such a player.

    I also think it’s ironic that you bring up OKC as a criticism of Stone when Stone’s best move was stealing Sengun from OKC without giving up much at all. Again, be consistent. Your criticisms make little sense.
     
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  7. daywalker02

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    I actually do not think he is a bad GM but a lazy, not trying too hard GM.....

    He probably could be in the Top 10-12 of GMs if he really wanted it but instead he is just crawling around being the 17th best GM......

    His IG screams he is a successful guy with a trophy wife.....dude is just living clichee....

    • Look: Stone is really good at pleasing people like Udoka, like Fertitta, why not make him Vice President of BBall Operations or any title that does not need him to be hands on or do anything with trades, drafting, anything....
    • Employ people right where they are needed and set up to succeed even more......

    Any 54 year old GM who is a rookie or sophomore GM should be really looked at and perhaps subbed for a younger and more ambitious GM.....

     
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  8. GOATuve

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    You're entitled to your opinion. Just remember mine is as valid as yours so the "your criticisms make little sense" is condescending and arrogant.

    Stone didn't steal Sengun. They missed on him like everyone else. It wasn't even Stone's pick. Stop being disingenuous.
     
  9. GOATuve

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    Enjoy your weekend. I'm not responding to personal insults as I said before. Grow up
     
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    OKC is doing what they're doing because of Shai, a player they did not draft and was thrown into a trade that they were forced into and didn't even want to make. Don't get me wrong they've drafted well otherwise but Shai is a legitimate MVP candidate and a top 5 player in the league, you could even argue he's #1 so far this season. They've drafted well too, don't get me wrong, but you can't really compare them to us. Shai is also in his 6th NBA season. Let's see what we look like when Sengun and Jalen are in their 6th season.
     
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  11. daywalker02

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    Lmao it was a masterpiece trading Paul George, an aging star for a new comer......or actually getting rid of PG13 first.

    On the surface it also helped the Clippers ......in the short run....and then the Russ to Houston teaming up with Harden.

     
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    I swear, Stone critics are the worst. It’s easy to critique when you play up all negatives and dismiss all positives. And really, do you not realize how absurd you sound? A major trade involving future assets wasn’t the GM’s pick?

    Yes, you are entitled to your opinion. But when you’re opinion doesn’t make sense, and your arguments are ridiculous, don’t be upset when people don’t really put much stock in your opinion.
     
  13. GOATuve

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    Completely fair and reasonable. I think we have a star in Sengun. Hopefully Jalen proves me wrong
     
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    You know he demanded to be traded right? Presti did not want to trade Paul George. George demanded to be traded to the clippers so he could play with Kawhi. This was not what OKC wanted, this was not some master plan by them.
     
  15. GOATuve

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    Yawn. You are pretending like your opinion matters. Just like mine it's merely that. I'll give you some insight (once again). Nobody cares what you or I think. Nobody is upset. You're just living in your own personal fantasy land
     
  16. daywalker02

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    Of course you needed the Goddess of Fortune to nudge you in the right direction.....

    PG13 is not a bad player but yes.......him going actually made Westbrook surrender and wanted to be traded to Houston......I see it now....

    But it is still a Master Exit Plan......Contigency Plan so to speak on the fly.....actually even better.

    The point was that they knew who SGA was at that time and that he was a gem in the rough.....and they went for him....

     
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    Harold, I do not have the best memory now getting older but I do understand that Presti is pretty average at building around veteran stars but pretty good at drafting and amassing talents, also not bad at trading.....

    The City loved Westbrook and wanted him to have the 1b star in Paul George but it was not going to happen......

     
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    He wasn't gifted those 3 top 5 picks lol, he made the choice to tank and get them. That's a credit to Stone and in fact he even went so far to interfere with team rotations to make sure they tank. Having a plan and sticking to it makes him a bad GM?

    How is being forced to spend money in the FA market a bad thing and makes him a bad GM? Normal people would praise him for signing Dillon Brooks and FVV but for you that's a complaint? Lol wtf. Brook Lopez signing wasn't mismanagement that was Lopez going back on his word. There's literally nothing that could be done to prevent that other than you knowing the future and not talking to him in the first place. Rox pivoted and signed Dillon Brooks and Jeff Green with that Lopez money so pretty sure Stone recovered from that setback and actually got a better result. But for you that makes him a bad GM?

    Teams whiff on draft picks all the time, especially low first round picks. It's a part of the draft process. Morey chose Morris Twin over Kawhi Leonard and Donte Greene over Nicolas Batum not to mention players like Sam Dekker and Joe Chee. Presti drafted Ousmane Dieng, Pokusevki, Cameron Payne. The whole point of a draft is taking a chance on a prospect and most of the time that draft doesn't pan out. If even the best GM Presti has bad picks not sure why you think low frps being busts are such a big deal.

    In short your complaints aren't even legit and yes claiming just these means Stone isn't a good GM does make you blind.
     
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    He made the choice to tank them? That was an owner decision which is also why Silas was hired. You're oblivious to what occurred.

    I never said a word about Morey. In fact, I'm not a fan of his either.

    No, as I said before it's my personal opinion and it doesn’t make me blind. You just are speaking in absolutes which makes you the blind person in this conversation
     
  20. daywalker02

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    Morey had the guts to make big trades....

     

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