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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. AleksandarN

    AleksandarN Member

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    New York Times reporters viewed evidence. Maybe the New York Times are in on this as well. Maybe Israel gave them fake pictures to them and the White House. Believe Hamas!! Right?
     
  2. mtbrays

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    They're not qualifying every assertion like that. The following sentences say:

    This is from the horse's mouth, not somebody who saw the horse.
     
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  3. lionaire

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    She said they raped her with their eyes lol calling this woman a rape victim is a straight up lie and by pushing these false claims as real crimes you're only hurting actual victims of sexual assault.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Yeah it is wierd that @fchowd0311 would rather believe Hamas then eyewitnesses and evidence presented to the New York Times and the White House
     
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  6. fchowd0311

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    That's not from the horses mouth. This is basic writing.


    The title says "hears*. So when a claim in the article says there is a video of said thing it is implied that they "heard" of a video of it existing.

    It's a way to deny spreading propaganda but being technically correct that they are only spreading information of what they heard rather than what the saw.

    The title would not say "hears" because if the author of the article physically saw these videos of rape they would t type "hears" in their article title.
     
  7. AleksandarN

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    I guess that was made up according to you same as this too I bet.

     
  8. AleksandarN

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    What title? Daily mirror title?
     
  9. fchowd0311

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    I'm going to need more than Israeli officials sending pictures to journalists as evidence.

    The NYT has a history of taking Israeli government rhetoric at face value as true.
     
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    I understand writing and you're arguing semantics in an effort to discredit allegations of sexual violence against Israeli women.

    Let's go with a NYT report that doesn't say they "heard" of sexual violence, but rather "verified" it.

    Should I be skeptical of this because the NYT doesn't say how they verified it?

    That makes it seem like the NYT reporters saw evidence. Is that good enough to assert that Hamas raped women on October 7?
     
  12. AleksandarN

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    Us government saw the evidence too. I bet they lying too. Everyone lying except Humas. Imagine believing Humas over your own government New York time etc. Yup it is all Zionist plot. Sick that you would believe that. Do you believe the Rothschild are behind this too?
     
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    “I never really thought that I would see, have confirmed, pictures of terrorists beheading children,”
     
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    Yeah these are some dastardly Jews. They're incredible at acting in these first-hand testimony videos and faking attack scenes, no wonder some people think they control Hollywood.
     
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    What did I say about children at all in this? I said rape of women
     
  17. AleksandarN

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    I bet you don’t believe women were raped on October 7?
     
  18. fchowd0311

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    Dastardly Jews?

    It's amazing how ironically you are spreading anti-semetic propaganda attacking a nation-state to Jews .


    Israel is a nation-State that is trying to express a status quo power dynamic. That inherently will always lead to evil acts not because they are Jews, because the state of Israel is a war machine that is trying to maintain a status quo system. No group of humans are immune to the highs and narcissism that comes with having that type of power dynamic.

    It is an inevitability of humans, not Jews to act like this to preserve a status quo system.

    It's a core premise of why anarchists believe in what they do. That hierarchies and systems of power inherently corrupts and removes basic empathy from those who hold that power.
     
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    What I took away from your comments is that any footage or testimony supplied by the Israeli government, even if it's interviews with emergency responders, attack survivors, etc., shouldn't be trusted because the Israeli government has an interest in lying about the severity of violence on October 7. That would mean that the people on video are acting and the images are edited or staged, would it not?

    My use of sarcasm in the post was to show absurd this position is and how demeaning it is to people who lived through October 7.

    It's also the same line of thinking that people use to waive away civilian death tolls in Gaza because agencies reporting those figures are connected to Hamas.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    I bet you believe Palestinians aren't raped by IDF soldiers while in detention.
     

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