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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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  1. mtbrays

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    What am I to make of stories like this from the BBC?

     
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    The BBC is REPORTING what the Israeli police and IDF members claim.

    Not what they personally witnessed.
     
  3. basso

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    we saw videos of a woman bleeding from her anus.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    Look at how careful they are also are framing their claims:


    "Videos of testimonies"...

    So someone without an ounce of intellectual curiosity would jump to "these journalists watched videos of rape!"

    But then they would type "videos of evidence" without the third party inclusion of "testimonies".

    It's a bad faith attempt at being technically correct but giving the impression that the journalists got first hand evidence but in reality all they still have is testimonies of people who are under the thumb if the Israeli government.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    I'm sure you did.
     
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  7. AleksandarN

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    Down playing what Hammas did is pretty sick. Do you believe no rape or murder happened at the festival?. You trying to down playing what happened to these people are sick.

    I guess this was made up then

     
  8. fchowd0311

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    What hamas did by targeting civilian centers is evil in itself.


    Ya you can be evil just by killing civilians like the IDF. You don't have to fabricate fake rape and beheaded baby stories. The Israeli govt trying to create these fake narratives is at the end of the day projection in the sense that they know if the dividing line between being evil and being just is merely the act of killing civilians, then they need to make sure to create a narrative that separates them from the other side because internally they know they kill civilians indiscriminately also.

    What Hamas did by attacking civilian populations was evil. The Israeli government understands that can't be the only thing hamas did to be considered evil or else both sides are "evil" because they understand they do the same thing but at a grander scale.
     
  9. AleksandarN

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    Again videos and pictures is out there depicting evidence of rape. Or are you purposely ignoring that.
     
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  10. AleksandarN

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    Are you saying rape did not occur at that music festival?
     
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    Individual incidents were violent men in severe power dynamic advantages yes.. at the same rate situations of IDF soldiers with power dynamics over detained Palestinians.
     
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    Given that IDF propagandists literally had to spam videos of drug cartel members with brown skin passing as Palestinians, maybe you should gather an ounce of intellectual curiosity to determine the validity of these claims.
    A lot of the rhetoric is based on hopes and lack of intellectual curiosity that most people will not click on links where the person passing on the link claims that the link possess severe actions of rape and murder. Most people will not click a link and watch it in its entirety if the person who passes on the link says it's content as extreme as " pregnant woman being raped". It's a rather vile tactic in how to spread disinformation... preying on the average human's humanity and empathy to be adverse to watching snuff content.
     
  13. AleksandarN

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    I am talking about

     
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    Notice the paragraph right above the paragraph that you cited. It literally says these are testimonies of Israeli police saying they seen these videos
     
  15. AleksandarN

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    Maybe all made up. Maybe the eye witnesses are all lying. It is fascinating that you fight against people’s testimony and evidence.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    BBC knows how to be careful when disseminated propaganda. Notice the title even does this.


    Why do you think they include "hears" in their title?
     
  17. AleksandarN

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    Maybe you rather believe Hamas when they say that they didn’t use rape and torture as a tool in their terror.
     
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    Why would a investigative journalist with what you claim there be video evidence include "hears" in their title after the alleged claim.
     
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    Those testimonies are filtered through a government currently commiting genocide. Would you believe at face value the testimonies of German citizens after they've been breifed and interrogated by the Third Reich?
     

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