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ClutchFans Game Thread: Nets @ Rockets 1/3/2024

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. sirjesse

    sirjesse The Udoker has spoken!
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    Cudos for reminding me of the Wizard. One of the more overlooked players there is.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Nonsense, Jabari was REALLY bad on offense, especially in the first half.

    I'm not sure what would make you think that, I bash Jabari all the time when he deserves it....I spent all last season doing it.

    The difference is that Jabari isn't a one way player, he can impact the game even when his shot isn't falling.

    I do think it's funny that people who have laughably terrible "eye tests" accuse others of only watching the box score when they point out their "eye test" was just completely wrong and do so using objective metrics.
     
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    It's to the point I'm surprised when he makes a layup.

    He either loses it and turns it over as he drives.

    Or he puts it up and it is like you said - a shot blockers wet dream.

    Seconded, I can't recall ever seeing a player be such a net negative on his penetrations - when you account for blocked shots and turnovers.

    If he isn't hitting 3s he really is providing absolutely nothing on the court.

    His defense in that first half was absolutely disgusting. For the life of me I'll never understand how his mindset is 'run to the side of the player on the perimeter with the ball'. Some of the blow by dribbles from his man isn't even because the guy dukes Green out - he literally runs in a straight line past him - because Green hasn't gone to stand in front of him but rushed to his side. I scratch my head every single time.

    The crazy part is - it's so obvious how much pressure Green puts on the rest of his team defensively by constantly being beat........ that is literally what the rest of the team dealt with x2 for the past 2 years because it was the same with KPJ. Truly insane people getting paid money to coach that team, couldn't see that problem but instead blamed the big man.
     
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  4. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, was it really Jalen doing that? Did you actually watch the game?

    Either way, I am glad Jalen's superfans are here for comedy relief.
     
  5. CXbby

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    “The Dementor”. Torments all of the skeptics who did not believe in him.
     
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    Missing shots doesnt make you bad on offense if they are just missing the correct shot in the flow of offense.

    Im not doubting your ability to bash on a rockets player.

    The difference is you fail to realize all the areas Jalen is contributing outaide of making/missing shots. Both players impacted the game outside shooting.

    I do think it's funny that people who have laughably terrible "eye tests" accuse others of having a bad "eye test" and just suck at being objective.
     
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  7. CXbby

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    Today is not the day to be arguing Jalen had a “good game”, that rolling the ball up the court turnover was something new I haven’t seen before, possibly one of the more pathetic plays I’ve ever seen.
     
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  8. CXbby

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    It seemed like Jalen was either getting swatted or turning the ball over whenever he tried to do anything, it definitely was not just “missing shots”. What game are yall watching
     
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    I have zero doubt, than in his third season Cam will be infinitely better than Jalen is.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Being a chucker and turning the ball over makes you bad on offense.

    Like I said, it's telling how low the standards for this absolute scrub are.
     
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    Also you can add in the two or three hockey assist

    You can also add he kept playing team ball even though he didn't shoot like his last few games (67 TS%) but he played passable defense and hit some momentum type shots

    Its funny how folks think 4 turnovers is a lot for high usage guards (so called chuckers)

    Green could have had 2 turnovers(TOs) in first half and 2 in the fourth quarter, which would be overlooked if he was getting VV apg numbers

    I would like to see Jalen get his TOs down to one per half, but a couple TOs per half on avg is 1 per quarter

    not a big deal if he has a 67 TS% with 25ppg with those 4 TOs

    He just needs to eliminate his 5-6 TO games where the team only has 8/9 total TOs
     
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  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah but it is a big deal when he's got 14 points on 15 FGA's and 2 FTA's when he's a one way player.

    I just wonder how bad he'd have to play for some of his superfans to admit he played poorly....would it be 20% TS%? 10? Is there even a level of pathetic that would be enough for them to admit it?
     
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    The offensive priorities are finally straight, and it shows. Let's put this franchise player discussion to bed.
     
  14. CXbby

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    If you gave him Jalen’s minutes and usage, I find it hard to believe that a 19 year old Cam is even worse today.
     
  15. roslolian

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    1 play does not an entire game make.
     
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    I 100% agree.

    Jalen just does so many things poorly, if not downright terribly.

    He has such a low bar to be claimed he had a good game, he still barely ever surpasses it.

    My signature before the season even started calls out Jalen's trash game. This season has only reinforced that view.
     
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  17. T for 3

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    Honest question...do you enjoy basketball, or do you just like to b**** about players? Sure seems like the latter.
     
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  18. roslolian

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    Dude was plus 17 he must have been doing something right.
     
  19. Downtown Sniper

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    Jesus christ. No he didn't have passable defense.

    4 turnovers... Jalen isn't a high usage guard though... so... that's actually quite disgusting for a player asked to do zero playmaking or ball handling.
     
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  20. roslolian

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    He said Green was the next Corey Brewer that's why he is on a mission to make Jalen look like a scrub.
     

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