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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. ROXRAN

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    I don’t like any dead children unlike Hamas and the Palestinian support of such . Israel simply will eradicate threats whether it’s 2 or 2 million. That’s not genocide, that is protection. The moment every Hamas surrenders I’ll be all for lasting peace
     
  2. LosPollosHermanos

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    You quoted a video DD posted (that was completely wrong) and said “thanks for the info I didn’t know that”

    your understanding of the situation is superficial, so comfortably asking to kill 2 million people is hilarious. This conflict has been going on for 70-80 years, you have to be extremely naive to think it started on October 7th (which resulted in 10x less civilian casualties per target than now).

    it just amazes me how people that know so little are ok with murdering others in another part of the world. It’s like the Iraq war and Afghanistan invasion which killed millions of people wasn’t enough. Even if they kill 2 million people the rest of these terrorist organizations won’t stop. Other countries would intervene and we would have a new world war that by the way you and I (mostly me because I doubt you’ll be fighting anytime soon, will have to die for)
     
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  3. LosPollosHermanos

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    You need to brush up on your definition I don’t think you understand the meaning of the word protection. We have laws in this country that are clear on retaliation, as has been uniform in human history.

    for example we don’t bomb schools with school shooters to protect the rest of the populace
     
  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    War is an ugly thing @ROXRAN dont romanticize it or the significance of human life
     
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  5. ROXRAN

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    Of course it’s been going on for hundreds or even thousands of years. What I do know is Jewish people have the right to exist ..Israel has the right to exist.

    It doesn’t matter if they kill 2 million people or 200 million people if it means protecting themselves then that’s what they should do. I know it didn’t start on October 7 but October 7 was the start of deciding Hamas needs to end
     
  6. ROXRAN

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    Of course war is ugly but Hamas choice this level of engagement.
     
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  7. ROXRAN

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    We are not talking about laws in this country are we? We were talking about the right of Israel and Jewish people to exist
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

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    They didn't support Hamas. Their support rises falls largely based on actions of Israel. Stop blaming the whole population.

    Especially when there aren't terror attacks and nobody bothers to support those being oppressed by Israel's illegal settlements and violence against innocent Palestinians.
     
  9. tinman

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    Yes
    But humans have always been at war
    Especially in the Middle East

    it’s the dumb TikTok generation that can’t comprehend it
     
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    Despite the supporters of Israeli's actions in Gaza it is important to realize that not all Jewish Israelis support their slaughter in Gaza.
     
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    A good reply to ATW, Tinman and the other righties who proclaim anti-semitism in virtually all responses on the topic.

    Let me speak plainly: It is not antisemitic to demand justice for all Palestinians living in their ancestral lands.

    The activists who employ this language, and the politics of liberation, are sincere people; their cause is a legitimate and important movement dissenting against the brutal treatment of Palestinians that has been ongoing for 75 years....

    If Israel’s cause is just, let it speak eloquently in its own defense. It is very telling that some of Israel’s own supporters instead go to extraordinary lengths to utterly silence the other side. Smearing one’s opponents is rarely a tactic employed by those confident that justice is on their side. If Israel’s case requires branding its critics antisemites, it is already conceding defeat.

    Let me be clear: Antisemitism in the U.S. is a real and dangerous phenomenon, most pressingly from the alt-right white-supremacist politics that have become alarmingly mainstream since 2016. To contend against these and other antisemitic forces with clarity and purpose, we must put aside all fabricated and weaponized charges of “antisemitism” that serve to silence criticism of Israeli policy and its sponsors in the U.S.

    As a Jewish leader, I say: Enough.

     
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    You hate to see it.

    nah

     
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    The Hamas built more tunnels than Elon’s company did. I wonder how they got all the environmental regulators and state officials to approve like a country wide subway complete with bathrooms and places to torture hostages ?
     
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    You seriously believe that most Palestinians knew Oct. 7th was going to happen?
     
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    The vicarious self righteousness of many anywho aren’t Israeli or even Jewish display is unsettling. I believe Israel has to exist and understand their actions even if I think it is excessive. The callous disregard thought of the lives of so many Palestinians is disturbing.

    The loss of human life in war is terrible. I said this in the Ukraine thread. I fully support Ukraine’s right to defend themselves and support the US arming Ukraine. I take no enjoyment in the deaths of Russian soldiers. Many whom are likely just poor conscripts.
     
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    @Nook tension. Crazy what's happening behind the scenes. If it wasnt for Biden Israel would've annexed gaza and thrown the palestians into the Sinai. Bibi was one of the biggest opponents to IDF leaving in the early 2000s and its what made his popular again.

    Crazy how history is writing itself in this moment and we're witness to it.
     
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    you support Ukraine's right to defend itself, but not Israel's. You bemoan Palestinian deaths, but not Russian.

    interesting bit of moral gymnastics.
     
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    This post misrepresented everything @rocketsjudoka posted.

    Why do you feel the need to misrepresent people to defend your position?
     
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  20. ROXRAN

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    I'm sorry, but this is a complete joke. I will never forget the sight of supposed innocent civilians cheering and spitting on the contorted body of Shani Louk, a beautiful German, Israeli girl that simply wanted to have a good time at a festival but instead, her body was tortured and desecrated, and that was even before death and I'm sure it happened after as well... the animals and yes, I call them animals that supported this. It wasn't good enough. They had to drag her body like a trophy... if the Israelis did that to a Palestinian civilian I would be upset - I take great comfort in that many of those who participated are already dead- at the very least. This is some thing that should never happen. There was no reason whatsoever. Anyone that supports this I hope they die as well and if that includes supposed innocent civilians, then I am completely happy with that @AroundTheWorld
     

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