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ClutchFans Game Thread: Sixers @ Rockets 12/29/2023

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 28, 2023.

  1. DeBeards

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    jk. I dunt think he's kinda guy who would make same mistake twice.
     
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    Yep, I am sure he is not seeing his son with Nia Long that much, which reminds him of his mistake.
     
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    If I'm Ime, Obviously, I can't go wrong with Tari's mom or Felicia. That's just so wrong we're talkin' about that.
    so yeah any updates on Brooks obliques?
     
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  4. Stephen_A

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    You do realize there’s more to basketball than just scoring right? He was aggressive and attacked the basket while playing unselfishly. Developing and growing.
     
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  5. Haymitch

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    Jalen should have either passed it immediately or risen up for the shot immediately. Instead, he hesitated when Tobias came up on him. We were ****ed after that.
     
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  6. Stephen_A

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    Passed to who? Jalen did what he was supposed to do. He was trying to get a three but Harris was playing him close. He tried to shake Harris but then got trapped. He made the right read with Landale rolling to the rim. If Landale scored there was still 6 seconds left which Rockets could have fouled right after. Landale also had 2 shooters in the corner for his choosing either Tate or Holliday. Holliday was more open initially which Landale could have passed quickly to.
     
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  7. Stephen_A

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    lol if he shoots and miss they will still blame Jalen lmao
     
  8. Stephen_A

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    Jalen did what he was supposed to do. He was trying to get a three but Harris was playing him close. He tried to shake Harris but then got trapped. He made the right read with Landale rolling to the rim. If Landale scored there was still 6 seconds left which Rockets could have fouled right after. Landale also had 2 shooters in the corner for his choosing either Tate or Holliday. Holliday was more open initially with Maxey scrambling towards Landale which Landale could have passed quickly to.
     
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    Landale getting a lot of hate, but the past two games are the first times I've seen him make any NBA quality plays at all this season. Craig and Ryan were actually giving him props in the 1st half. I would have much preferred his pass to the corner for a three in that situation, but I'm not putting the loss on him.

    We certainly miss Brooks' defense and Jabari's length. Can't wait to get those guys back. And I'm glad Jalen looked good as well. We need him to bounce back strongly.
     
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  10. Stephen_A

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    not his fault Rockets lost. It was lack of effort against Beverly, no interior defense, and lack of on ball pressure against Maxey.
     
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  11. Haymitch

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    I think Jalen should have shot it. He was hot last night. Tobias Harris is not Kawhi Leonard; Harris is not a good defender. Jalen had some space and could have gotten the shot off.

    Several people here apparently think Jalen should have passed it. So, ok, if he should have passed it, then he should have passed it without hesitation. But because he hesitated, there was no good option left. Landale with 6 seconds left is never a good option. I would much rather have Jalen try to shoot the ball.
     
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  12. Stephen_A

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    He had a small window to shoot. Would have been rushed and Harris is a long player and crowding the line. If he passed it without hesitation then Landale would have had it top of the key with 8.2 seconds left with no one open. Landale would have to drive into the paint himself and I don’t think anyone thinks that’s a good idea. Jalen waited for Landale to roll. It was the right play for Jalen. Again Landale should have passed it to Holliday wide open in the corner.
     
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    Jalen had an opening to shoot it right after he got the screen. The old Jalen under Silas would surely do, the new Jalen under ime should do it too. But there are growing pains, he hesitates because he is learning to make educated decisions under pressure. He knows he will be held accountable if makes the wrong decoy. And after all passing was a very bad option. If Landale wasn’t an idiot we would get an open 3.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    To be honest, he shouldn't have even had the ball in his hands in the first place, but since it was in his hands, he needed to get it to a 3 point shooter if he wasn't going to take the shot himself....instead he passed it to a terrible player in the post when the team was down by 3 with 3 seconds left. It would have been the right pass in a completely different situation, but it was a moronic pass given the scenario they found themselves in.....low BBIQ strikes again.
     
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    Typical anti green folks shtting on green for making the correct pass. If anything blame the dumba$$ who decides to go for two when down 3 with open shooters at the corner.

    But it doesn't fit the narrative of low bbiq Jalen green
     
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    So it seems like we agree that he shouldn't have passed it to Landale.

    The disagreement is whether or not Jalen could have gotten a good-enough shot over Harris. I think he absolutely could have. There was space, and Harris was not going to close out on him and risk fouling him. Plus, again, Harris is not a good defender.

    If our starting SG, who was having a great shooting game, cannot or will not attempt to shoot the ball in that scenario, then I don't know why he's even on the court at the end.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, so the "correct pass" with only a few seconds left in the game, down by 3 is to your backup center in the post who could only potentially even score 2?

    Damn, I get that his simps really want to defend their guy.....and he otherwise had a REALLY good game, but that's just delusional.


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    This was the first second that Landale had the ball, the clock is at 6.5 seconds, if he goes to pass it to the top corner, it gets picked off by the defender already headed to cut that off, if he throws it to the bottom corner, it gets picked off by the guy cutting that passing lane off.

    This was the trap they set for Jalen, and he fell right into it because he didn't know any better.

    They needed Van Vleet to be handling the ball on this possession to create a 3 point shot, instead Jalen Green had it and was immediately doubled because they knew he wouldn't make the right pass and would fall for the open option that was a trap....and he didn't disappoint.

    Of course, blame also goes on the coach for even having Landale in the game to begin with.
     
  18. DatRocketFan

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    Green gets double team he pass to the big man who suppose to pass to the open folks at the 3. Look at them getting ready to shoot the ball which never came.

    Let's be real u would have btch regardless if Jalen took the 3 and whiff.

    Lockdale has six seconds to pass to an open man. Not three like u btch about earlier. Details matter.
     
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    Yeah, that was the trap they knew he was dumb enough to fall into. You pass to the big man in the paint and cut off his passing lanes leading to either a turnover or a contested attempt to score 2 when the team is down 3.

    If he just chucked up a contested 3, it would be a sign that the wrong person was handling the ball too....

    That's why they needed FVV handling the ball trying to set up someone with a shot at hitting a 3.

    Instead, Jalen fell into the trap leading to Landale having the ball in the paint with very little time left on the clock down 3 with defenders set to pick anything headed to the corners and Jalen covered. His only real option would have been to fake to the top corner and pass to FVV....but that would have taken too much time and would have required Landale to be a MUCH better player.

    The set up was for Jalen to take a 3, there was a brief moment he could have gotten that shot off, but he hesitated and then fell into the trap set by the defense.

    We can appreciate the rest of the game where Jalen played very well, but he cocked it up in the end...as expected because he was put in a position he's not capable of handling.
     
  20. Stephen_A

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    No I didn’t say that at all. I said he made the right decision to Landale on the roll.
     

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