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Chapter 6: Green & Redemption

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Apr 5, 2023.

  1. NewAge

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    I strongly disagree with what you are implying here.

    First, the sample size of homosexuals in the NBA is super-small to be able to draw any meaningful conclusions.
    Second, within that sample, the data doesn’t support your conclusion at all. Dwight, as you say, was a superstar for many years. Amaechi and Jason Collins maximized their talents and were respected teammates.

    The issue with Jalen Green was always gender-fluidity, rather than sexual orientation. These are different things. Green to me is a lot more like Justin Bieber, who is straight, than Jason Collins who is gay. Just a very feminine boy, which I don’t think translates well to NBA competition. Sexual orientation is not the same thing.
     
  2. GOATuve

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    I agree on Detroit and Cade.

    Jalen would get more than a second round pick though
     
  3. GOATuve

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    If you are ever in Detroit go to Buddy's Pizza. Best there is
     
  4. CXbby

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    So far you have named exactly one player in the history of the NBA. Versus…every other good player in NBA history? The sample size isn’t exactly on your side to “get with the times”.
     
  5. bmelo

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    cmon man you can't be looking at Dwade for example and act like that boy not in the closet lmao
     
  6. Dobbizzle

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    Ok, name all of the players in the NBA who played terribly because of their nail varnish. I'll wait for the list. You need to get a better grasp of how logic works, your argument literally disproves itself.
     
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  7. Amiga

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    In yesterday press conf, Coach was asked about Jalen’s struggle. Is it about his reads, shooting slump, …

    His answer: not about a shooting slump. It’s more about reading the defense, implying that poor shots result from misreads. He also mentioned they put a better defender on him, and eventually, he would get it.

    Yep, misread the defense. His struggle is due to him trying to learn to play the right way. This is almost like him finally being told to play in a way that he’s not comfortable with, essentially this is a rookie year for him.
     
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  8. ChillyPete32

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    He’s not trying to imply “for awhile” goes back to the draft. He was getting down on Jalen a little earlier than some others and to his credit was pumping up Sengun before a lot of others.

    The biggest Jalen skeptic I remember of reputable draftniks was Hollinger and even he had Jalen 5th behind Mobley, Cade, Barnes, and Sengun. He gets a victory lap for that draft. He was really high on Whitmore too so hopefully gets a similar victory lap.
     
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  9. Easy

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    I still remember the time when men wearing earrings was a novelty.
     
  10. J Sizzle

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    “Essentially this is a rookie year for him”…?

    Lmfao. The excuses for the bad basketball player continue…
     
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  11. CXbby

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    They don’t make it into the league to play terribly in the first place, that’s my point.
     
  12. Dobbizzle

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    When was that? I'm 40 and the only real difference I saw is that when I was young, men mostly wore an earing in one ear (I believe it was on the left) then around my teenage years people started branching out and wearing them in both, or getting nose rings or whatever. Even looking at pop culture trends, men were wearing earrings in photographs for decades before I was born. Men have been wearing makeup and nail polish since long before I was born too, so y'all must be going way back to like the 40's or some ****. If you actually look at it, historically creative people are more likely to outwardly self-express in their fashion choices. In modern times, gangsta rappers wear nail polish all the time, many of them significantly older than Green. Criticising him for painting his nails is literally the same as criticising my generation for not pulling our pants up and wearing baseball caps at odd angles. He's literally just following the current hiphop fashion trends (and yeah, most of y'all would literally piss your pants if some of these gangstas put a gun in your face, and beg them for mercy.)
     
  13. Dobbizzle

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    So basically, you disproved your own theory because you have no sample size to back your argument. In fact, I've provided more examples of people with nail polish who were fantastic players than you have, so I win. Thanks for conceding so easily.
     
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    Team's at the top of the standings would trip over themselves to give a late FRP for Jalen Green.
     
  16. MadMax

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    Even if the excuses were correct…who cares? His contract requires decisions sooner rather than later…he’s not a rookie and he doesn’t have the time a rookie would have to get it together before the Rockets have to make a decision on him. And it’s definitely not trending well…

    I think there are fundamental problems with his game that I don’t expect will improve significantly enough for him to be what we want. I’d love to be wrong, but at this point when I read someone say, “we’d be selling low now” my first thought is that the more his play continues the worse his value will be. Holding on is no guarantee that his value will improve.
     
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  17. MadMax

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    Teams at the top of the standings don’t have the minutes to give that are necessary for the possible improvement of Jalen Green. He needs to be on a team like the Rockets or worse that has plenty of minutes to hand out for development.
     
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    They don't have to make a money decision until he the end of next season.
     
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  19. MadMax

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    They damn sure better have made a value decision long before then
     
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  20. GOATuve

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    Of course.
     

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