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[Player Assessment] Alperen Sengun

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Dankstronaut, Mar 10, 2023.

  1. cumutk

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    They were good, really good but Their post play level is nowhere Sengun's level.
    Sengun is an artist in post play and possibly the best post player all around the world.
    The moves, the angles he makes that body is unbelievable..
    Scola and DMo were nowhere near, they were limited.
    Sengun has limitleess post moves, when on his day, no one in NBA can defend him.. it is simple as this..
    People say he improved his moves with working Hakeeem.
    This is not True, before NBA he already was one of the best post players in the world.
    Did you how agile he is?
    I also love Scola , but Scola can not carry a team in offense, he is not Alpha, but Sengun is..
    If he was not scapegoated in his two years, he was already all star last year, with stats like 20/10/7/1...
     
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    Lol it is not about what level it is though, friend, it is about what you said how they carried the craft of post play.

    And built on that Tradition. Also no reason to belittle other players because they score less points than Sengün......Yao was a 25-26 ppg player in his own right in his prime, just was injured most of the time.

    Great Players always Respect History.

     
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    Rockets fans.

    Funnily enough, both people you could be addressing here have been around since before Sengun was born/longer than you.

    So stop the "going manic" and "persecution complex" BS.

    One thing I can tell you is that when Sengun had a bad game, there was no hesitation to unleash all kinds of pettiness against people who have vocally supported the kid, where were you with your "going manic" comments then?
     
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  4. cumutk

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    I dont undervalue them, they are all great players.
    But this does not change my eye test, Sengun is the best post player right now...
    This Kids post game is another dimension and one more thing, he play makes from post, this makes him a Diamond.
    How many times did you see Scola, DMO made plays from post?
     
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    Yes, you do sound like you are defending Silas.

    If you cannot see the difference between Silas repeatedly singling out one player only vs. Ime holding each (young) player accountable the same way, then it's no wonder you are still being defensive about your hilariously bad takes.

    Young players improve naturally, and young centers especially usually don't reach their peak level before age 23/24 or so.

    Sengun was on a trajectory towards at least becoming an all-star last year already. Too bad you could not see it.
     
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    DMo was one of the best Post Player I have seen actually, his other games like driving, dunking, finishing, being tough, shooting, that is why he is not a better player.

    But his post game was one of the best I have seen. Especially the best Baby Hook Shot. Also one of the fastest Hook Shot.
     
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  7. cumutk

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    l dont say that DMo was a bad post player, but Sengun's talent is different.
    Sengun is the best post player in NBA right now, while this league's superstars saying this, and some of fans try to discuss this here..
    Silly..
    Just like Stephen Curry changed the game with 3pt shot, Sengun will change the way how game is played after 90's and post scoring will again become something so valuable.
    I am talking about a revolutionary player, and you are saying me Scola, DMo? Not disrespect to them..
    I am saying something different.
    He is not just a post scorer, with the exception of Jokic , this kid shows that a franchise can be built on a player of post move genius, not just Artificial world of 3 pt shot.
     
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    Watching him again on tape, he is actually better hook shooter than I last remembered, wow......

    Scola had his ice cream scoop shot, that he does.

    You could say they could score more but the man was Harden (or McGrady/Yao) and so they were not going to......

    Definitely two of my favorite players.......elite post players.

     
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  9. cumutk

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    But he can not make plays from post...
    This makes Sengun uncomparable to all players you mention..
    Sengun is a playmaker from post.. in addition to his superior post play.
    If his team mates can be much more careful at the rim, his asist number is never less than 8 or 9.
    Post play is not only about scoring, it is also about makine plays.
    Sengun is such a player that he makes everyone around him better from his post play..
     
  10. cryout75

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    what if he is 6' 9" though. something to think about...
     
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    Sir Charles is 6'4" and a HOF. Chuck Hayes was a great player for us as a 6'4" center. Sengun is a bball savant and has already proven to be wothy of all-star consideration. Nothing to worry about.
     
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  12. cryout75

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    I am trolling bro, there's been an ongoing sengun height topic for years now. I was just making fun of that...
     
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    More I see posts like these, less I blame @Os Trigonum.

    Alperen is not the best post player in the league right now, and none of the league's superstars have ever said that. As a matter of fact, none of the Rockets young core is "the best" at anything YET.

    Alperen is a wonderkid who's projected to be a perennial all-star and a great player. But he's not a perennial all-star and a great player, YET.
     
  14. cumutk

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    Alperen is the best post player, not only in NBA, also in Europe right now.

    He is not the piece of Rockets core, he is the offensive leader of Rockets.
    So l find it funny for Rockets media and fans to see/perceive him equal to other young players.
    He is not, he never was.
    He was and is "Him", from day 1.
    Sengun is not one of the core anymore, he is this teams leader, accept it or not..
    How many young players have you seen tripple teamed- not double teamed- in this team except Sengun?
    Dude, Sengun is Rockets, Rockets is Sengun..
    So easy as ; 2+2=4 ...
     
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    These threads show that if someone makes predictions as if they know the future and sneer at people who don't agree with them, they'd better eat some humble pie when they are shown to be wrong.

    There are plenty of people here who have been shown to be wrong, and instead of admit of eating crow, they blame those who were right of persecuting them now.
     
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    Scott Peck explained in "The Road Less Traveled" 45 years ago. No surprise people blaming others rather than to accept.
     
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  17. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    Sengun fans so fragile I swear. Mass victim complex like a bunch of white nationalists. Very emotional bunch.
     
  18. cmoak1982

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    Don’t be racist
     
  19. clos4life

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    Yeap, true colors coming out now. A real picture of maturity right there.
     
  20. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    I don’t think that word means what you think it means.


    lol
     

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