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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 24, 2023.

  1. sealclubber1016

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    Over the last 2 seasons Framber threw 436 innings with hardly any offseason given his last game of 22 was November 5th.

    I get that a lot of you have decided he had a bad closing stretch therefore he certainly sucks...but it's not as easy as you guys think it is to find great pitchers.
     
  2. The Beard

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    Again, everyone talks about him being a head case

    THREE pitchers threw more innings with a better era last year in all of baseball

    And if we trade him (I still trust that we won't) it would be to get under the tax line which Crane has never paid. We wouldn't be turning around and spending that money on pitching, but even if we did you aren't getting an Ace for 12.5 million

    It cracks me up how many people would be ok trading him for prospects. I mean if it is so easy to develop a prospect into Framber, how is he one of the top 5-7 favorites for the AL Cy Young lol
     
  3. BMoney

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    So, she's faking this, or overreacting?
    Come on.
     
  4. The Beard

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    Maybe you have seen the death threats? Personally, I haven't seen them

    As far as overreacting to people giving her hell online for spreading lies about Altuve and hating on him, as long as it is banter over that it's all fair game. If you don't want people to rip on you online, why is ok for you to rip on others online?

    What gives her the right to rip on someone online? It's either ok or it isn't
     
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  5. panamamyers

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    Maybe.
    Hopefully Dana Brown can figure it out.
     
  6. The Beard

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    Hopefully Crane doesn’t force him to figure it out
     
  7. panamamyers

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    He forced him to figure it out the day he was hired. He's figuring things out 24/7. So, Crane has definitely asked him to figure it out..sorry
     
  8. Radricky

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  9. Castian Crew

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    F Framber, he let everyone down last year... time to go!
     
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  10. Radricky

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    Mariners bros in shambles
     
  11. the shark

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    Without Framber we don't win the World Series last year!!!!
     
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  12. Castian Crew

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    With Framber, we don't win it next year. Better get some valuable assets before he implodes more.
     
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  13. Radricky

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    We didn’t win the World Series last year
     
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    There's the childish take. How about an adult one?

    It's still 2023. We won it in 2022. Literally last year.
     
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  15. the shark

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    We didn't?

    It's 2023. Did we not win the WS in '22?
     
  16. Nook

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    How did he do in the 2022 World Series? He has pitched deeper into the season and more innings than anyone in baseball the last 4-5 years. He was pitching with a foot injury and was exhausted.

    A few outspoken Astros fans so adamant to get rid of him is really strange to me. He is just about the perfect foil to Verlander… and Valdez has been as important as anyone in the Astros success.
     
  17. Nook

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    Yes - or it gets you another World Series championship.

    It isn’t clear cut - everything has to be balanced.

    What players are you going to get? How good are you likely to be in 2026?

    How much worse are you in 2024?

    How good is the lower farm system?

    I have asked several times and been told every time that the Astros will not trade him this year. That there are concerns about and extension (as there are with Tucker) but they don’t think they win without Valdez or a player as good as him added to the roster.

    The Astros were involved with Glasnow and Cease - maybe they would have moved Valdez if they had added one of those guys - but for now Valdez is the man.
     
  18. Castian Crew

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    That was before the pitch clock exposed him. I'm okay with a good deal to trade him.
     
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    From Ken Rosenthal’s latest article:


    Which way Astros?
    The Astros continue to explore the addition of a free-agent reliever, monitoring a reunion with Hector Neris and touching base on Jordan Hicks, according to sources briefed on their discussions.

    The team, however, currently is just over the initial $237 million luxury-tax threshold, according to Fangraphs’ calculations. One agent in contact with the Astros says club officials are is signaling that money is an issue. Under owner Jim Crane, the team has exceeded the threshold only once.

    Trading left-hander Framber Valdez, who is projected to earn $12.1 million in the second of his three years of arbitration, would create flexibility under the threshold. But it remains unclear whether the Astros will pursue such a course.
     
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    Stop paying bagwell
     
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