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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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  1. astros123

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    Families of hostages who met with biden in DC for hours are doing rally bashing the current government for refusing to meet with them and mocking bibi that it's easier to meet biden than bibi. The war cabinet refuses to meet or give time to hostage families.

    Don't worry @AroundTheWorld is here to bootlick him blindly
     
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    You keep repeating this. Can you find a post of mine to substantiate your (imaginary) claim?
     
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    You might want to do some further research from a non-X source.
     
  4. basso

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    I was correcting your statement. Not justifying mob violence and massacring of civilians. There is no argument that it was wrong. But that wasn’t your only point, was it?
     
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    You spent a lot of time on this thread and in that post rationalizing murder against Jews. Yes, you say "it's wrong", but you keep coming up with a lot of reasons why it was done.

    Check your moral compass.
     
  7. Amiga

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    Sad, but it appears very avoidable with different leadership and training. This aligns with past reports highlighting the aggressive nature of the IDF. Ignoring pleas in Hebrew takes it to another level of wrongdoing.

    IDF says Israeli hostages it killed in Gaza were bare chested and waving white flag | Gaza | The Guardian
    According to reports of the IDF probe in the Israeli media, the three men Yotam Haim, Samer El-Talalka and Alon Shamriz – all in their 20s – had somehow escaped their captors and were approaching an IDF position in the Shejaiya area of Gaza City where there has been heavy fighting.

    One of the men was carrying a stick with a white cloth tied to it and all had removed their shirts. Spotting the three, an Israeli soldier on a rooftop opened fire, shouting “Terrorists!”

    While two of the hostages fell to the ground immediately, the third fled into a nearby building. When a commander arrived on the scene, the unit was ordered into the building where soldiers killed the third hostage despite his pleas for help in Hebrew.

    It emerged too that the IDF had identified a nearby building marked with “SOS” and “Help! Three hostages” two days earlier but had believed it might be a trap.
     
  8. durvasa

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    I will continue to try to correct false or misleading statements that you and others make to justify on-going violence when I see them (as in this case, an historically illiterate argument you are promoting that Arabs aren’t really motivated by loss of land to Israel; it’s nothing but hatred of Jews).

    I’m quite secure in my moral compass, especially when your responses in this thread repeatedly indicate you have no counter-argument.
     
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    Even the founder of Islam murdered Jews. I guess in your world that is Israel's fault also.
     
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    This poster has spent a decade and thousands upon thousands of posts b****ing about Muslims in a NBA team fan message board. I never had seen anything like it.

    If there was ever a person I would be cautious of being a terror threat is ATW. It's unhinged how much this alleged CEO spends on a NBA team fan message board b****ing about Muslims and trans people. Half the d&d is his tweet spamming about Muslims and trans people. Seriously anyone know this guy personally do a simple mental health check on him and make sure he isn't loading up on firearms?
     
  11. durvasa

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    This is about as relevant as me pointing to the genocide of the Canaanites by Jews in ancient times. Just a distraction from the conditions underling the conflict today (or 100 years ago).
     
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    Only if you are motivated to be an Islam apologist (which you are).
     
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    I don’t care about Islam or defending it. I care about facts and the root causes of this conflict, because that’s where one should start to meaningfully discuss potential solutions.

    If you want to dispute that fears over loss of land and religious sites to Jews was not a major factor in the conflict during the British Mandate period, you can do so. False accusations that I’m defending the barbaric actions of an 8th century warlord or murderous Arab mobs is a distraction to the topic at hand.
     
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    It's not about land.

    That's a narrative to distract from the fact that it's about Islamist hate and supremacy aspirations.
     
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    There was a time (8th to 14th century?) when various Islamic caliphates ruled the Middle East, and historical accounts suggest that Jewish communities coexisted and prospered under Muslim rule.
     
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    So you would recommend trying that again?
     
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    Can you point to a single historian of the conflict that agrees with your thesis that it is not about land? Or even just anyone of repute on the subject?
     
  19. basso

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    from the river to the sea is just a chant about land?

    what happens to the state of Israel in that scenario?
     
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    Is ISIS about land? Al Qaeda? Abu Sayaf? etc. etc.

    Hamas = ISIS
     

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