I also propose eliminating federal spending, so the debt will be taken care of by other government revenues. The bet offer is still open.
A Zionist- Someone who supports the development and protection of a sovereign Jewish nation in what is now Israel. Do you not support the right for Israel to exist within it's internationally recognized borders? Do you believe these 20+ Islamic states have a right to exist and govern themselves under Islamic law? Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Brunei, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. And Turkiye, Sudan? There are almost 2 million Arab-Israeli citizens with full equal rights living in Israel. How many Jews do you think are living in these 20+ Islamic states? That would be less than 40,000 TOTAL. Why do you think that is? How many Christians do you think live in these Islamic states? Why do you think that is? Would that be ethnic cleansing? In Turkiye, for example, just 3 decades before the formation of Israel in 1947, there were about 4 million Christians (23% of the population) and 350,000 Jews living there.. Now, just .2%, around 30,000 Christians and 10,000 Jews. How did that happen? In Bethlehem, in 1950, the population of Christians was 90%. Now, only 11,000 remain. In Gaza only 1,000 Christians and no Jews. What about Christians in Pakistan? Jews in Iraq? What is the current situation regarding human rights abuses and equal rights for Christians and other religious minorities in these 20+ Islamic states? Do they live free and equal as the 2 million Arab-Israeli Muslims do in Israel? What about women, gays and other persecuted minorities? Why have so many Muslims from the Middle East immigrated to the United States & Europe, yet hardly any Americans or Europeans have immigrated to these 20+ Islamic states? One, tiny Jewish state with 2 million Arab Muslim citizens (some of them gay, half of them women) living with equal rights.
Don’t support him. Btw this video is 4 years old and already condemned by the PA and most ppl. Do you condemn members of the Israeli government calling for a genocide against Gaza?
Netanyahu has said this. He has said that he doesn't support a two state solution. His top advisor has said that the support for Hamas was to weaken the power of Abbas in the Westbank. When Gaza was "turned over" to Hamas, Netanyahu threatened to resign. Netanyahu and his supporters have provided incentives for Jewish settlements in the occupied area, and there are numerous examples of the Israeli government not carrying through on the promises they made to curtain settlements after receiving pressure from the USA. The only reason that Gaza and Westbank isn't already part of Israel, is because Isreal is a democracy and the Jews cannot be out numbered by Arabs, or they will lose control of the election and an Arab majority will take over. Israel has done everything possible to get the Arab majority erased - from pushing 80% of them out of Israel proper. To not granting Arabs citizenship in Israel proper until the 1970's, To encouraging Jews from outside of Israel to move in and set up settlements in the occupied territory to try and erase the population advantage of the Arabs (they have admitted this will fail). They have tried to drive the Arabs out of the occupied territory through intimidation and terrible living conditions. They have even at one point tried to push them into Egypt or Jordan. Does every Jew in Israel agree with this? No, there are plenty of Jews that do not agree with this.
I don't support the formation of any state based on religion. Israel did not exist until roughly 70 years ago. I would be strongly against the USA or the West helping in the establishment of a new state based on religious or ethnicity. Having said that - Pandora's Box is already open and it is 2023, and many of those in Israel were born there or have lived their a long time. So I do not and would not support an expulsion of Israeli's from Israel as they are already there. As a side note, I do not believe that the Jews are special, I do not believe they are entitled or deserving of protection anymore than a number of other groups of people that retain an identity but lack a land. This is extremely arrogant, and something that I have had a number of religious Jews state when the topic comes up - and they are no more special than the Assyrians or the Kurds etc. I have no use for theocracies and I have no desire to form religious states. 80% of the Arabs in the recognized borders were pushed out. Those that remain did not have citizenship until the 1970's, but they do now. However, the vast majority of them still view themselves as Palestinians. Having said that - the granting of citizenship is a positive first step. Now grant all the Arabs in Gaza and the Westbank full Israeli citizenship - it won't happen and it cannot happen and we both know it. We both know why - Islam doesn't take well to those that are not Islamic. I would not live in an Islamic state either for that very reason. Yes - well there is a lot behind that, some of it being the formation of Israel, some of it being politics in the region. What does this have to do with Israel? Is the standard for Israel: "Yeah, well we at least we are not as bad as Pakistan." It doesn't really matter what the standard is in Pakistan, another state where the West stepped in and formed based on religion and another abomination. Again - is that where the bar is now? We are not as shitty as Iraq? Why would anyone from the West immigrate to a war-torn area with instability, a terrible economy, that is run by extremists and warlords? Yet - that has nothing to do with Israel. Israel has far more progressive laws than the rest of the Middle East. I don't think that really has much relevance in how Israel has traditionally treated the occupied territory though.
Why is it so difficult for right wingers to attack bibi? @AroundTheWorld @Salvy @basso I genuinely don't get why American right wingers have to ass lick bibi blindly? Its been proven now that bibi helped funnel billions of dollars to Hamas through Qatar to create division and bibi knew of the pending attack weeks before it happened but he dismissed all warnings. With all the facts known as they are now they still can't help but get on their knees and worship bibi. I just don't get it
Excellent post andI commend your patience for addressing the defense of Jewish theocracy and or Jewish Supremacy point by point.
Don't white supremacists use the rhetoric of being persecuted by violent minorities as a talking point? Like one of the go to tropes of white supremacy rhetoric is the "rapey migrants and Black people of white women". The concept of protecting white women from nonwhite savages is a very very inherent part of white supremacy.
Somehow basso skips over the part where IDF and bibi knew of the plans and had great detail how they were going be launched from gaza and did NOTHING. NOTHING It's just amazing the brain rot these people have to asslick bibi and blame everyone else. Yes hamas are awful. Bibi is awful as well. 2 things can be true at once.
If a settler and his family in 1840's American is attacked by a Native America party and murdered - is it victim blaming or does it give context? I do not have a definitive answer for you - at some point it can become victim blaming - but from my perspective, I do not blame any of those murdered by Hamas when they invaded Israel. Do I think history and the political decision of Israel and Hamas played part in setting it all in motion? Yeah I do. I have had this discussion about 9-11 before. Those that died in the WTC were victims and did not deserve it. Did a million events set of the birth of Al Queda and lead to the decision that a group of Muslims would commit terrorism? Yeah - some of the grievances of those in the Middle East were valid against the USA, that doesn't condone what happened 9-11. Context and circumstance are important to understand why things happen - it becomes an issue when it is used as an excuse.
There is no "context" that justifies or excuses rape and mass murder of innocent civilians. Whether the Israeli security forces could or should have done more to prevent the attack doesn't change anything about who is responsible: Hamas. Nobody else is responsible.
