Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, eliminating constitutional right to abortion

Extreme "pro-lifers" believe it's preferable for politicians and state officials, who can easily be religious zealots, to dictate health-related decisions rather than leaving them in the hands of doctors and their patients. The existing exceptions are written in a manner that empowers prosecutors to determine their validity. Whenever a judge specifies a case as valid, it introduces the risk that other cases may be deemed valid, a situation deemed unacceptable by religious zealots. This underscores a reality that many fail to grasp - while people may assume there are exceptions, in practice, only those deemed valid by state officials hold sway -- there is essentially no exceptions in pro-life states run by religious zealots. This is why women are pissed, as they should be. In fact, anyone who actually cares about the government NOT intruding in people's lives should be pissed.

 

Truly inhuman...

 

shouldn't your ire be directed at the politicians and voters who passed these laws, rather than the AG enforcing them?

 

The voters have overwhelmingly rejected these measures every time they've had the chance.

Ire is well targeted when it goes after anyone that comes between a person and their legitimate healthcare.

 

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/HS/htm/HS.170A.htm

 

Yes the voters who keep on voting for an indicted AG deserve blame.

 

Yes that was my point exactly. We may disagree though that mental health is a real issue. We see conservatives bring it up all the time regarding shootings so why should it not be considered valid here.

 

Ken Paxton is a POS, and the GOP running this state are a bunch of men who don't give a damn about women's rights, LGBQT rights, affordable healthcare, public schools, mental healthcare, gun violence and mass shootings, a living wage, price gouging, or enforcing regulations on our chemical spewing plants.
Their hearts are fueled by oil, ammo, greed, and power.

 

Viability I don’t believe is considered a factor in the abortion laws. I haven’t read the full law so someone can correct me if I’m wrong. My understanding is that even if the fetus isn’t viable or has a very low chance of survival beyond birth that wouldn’t be considered an exception under TX law.

In this case the argument made by Paxton and others is they just because the fetus might not survive anyway it still shouldn’t be aborted and the health of the mother mental or physical shouldn’t be considered.

 

Exactly. She had health reasons for the abortion and the AG still tried to stop it.

 

Maybe it should be a consideration.

 

Shameful...

 

it can't be just any health reason though

nonviability of the baby isn't a reason either (unless the fetus is dead, at which point it isn't an abortion)

 

Texas has a total ban on abortion, with exceptions for situations involving threats to life and physical health in emergencies. Essentially, prosecutors can interpret this to mean that the individual must be actively dying or being harmed physically. For instance, if a doctor believes there is a 95% risk of death unless an abortion is performed, the procedure is not allowed unless the person is actively dying.

BTW, here is a summary for all States.

 

It should be up to the health provider and patient.

 

the unborn is a patient that must be protected from child sacrifice

 

We don't allow people to kill because it would be helpful in avoiding mental health issues. Shootings are a totally different issue, where the poor mental health of the shooting is directly affecting their decision making. These women aren't killing their babies because the voices in their heads are telling them to do it, they are killing their babies because they claim having the baby will cause anxiety or depression. No one would argue a school shooter should not be incarcerated because he would have been depressed had he not killed those kids.

 

Doctors and the parent should make those decisions, not politicians. It is just like when a child is 2, the doctors and patients make those decisions.

At no point should a politician interfere in those decisions.