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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    I think one of them is a Palestinian who lives in Turkey and the other one is originally from Houston but now lives somewhere else in the US, probably of Pakistani origin.
     
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    They’re all Jeremy Lin fans to me
     
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    We are not DaDakota.
     
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    Yeah, my family members there are from the west and have since moved to the east for work. They definitely echo what you say: education in the DDR was not the same and the eastern surge in popularity for the AfD has a lot of causes, but one of them is being decades behind on freedom and education to begin with.
     
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    Will answering this question change your views on the genocide happening in Gaza right now?
     
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    What would have been an appropriate Israeli response to October 7?
     
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    Do you think the response from October 8th until now has been appropriate? Including the murder of 8000 children, a siege leading to starvation of the populace, and pulling the plug on babies in incubators?
     
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    I think it's been heavy-handed, but I'm not a general and don't know what type of action could've been executed in a place like Gaza that wouldn't result in massive civilian losses.

    What do you think Israel would've been within its rights to do after October 7?
     
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    Definitely not the murder of 20 thousand civilians, murder of 70+ journalists, violent displacement of 1.8 million civilians, destruction of 80% of residential buildings, or destruction of nearly every hospital there, or the many other war crimes.
     
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    wait ?
    These dudes aren’t Jewish or from Israel

    woke people can’t tell the difference ?


    Thailand should drop some ghost peppers on these non pork eating suckers
     
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    Given Hamas' deliberate strategy of embedding itself within the civilian population and infrastructure and the density of Gaza, I don't know that there is any action Israel could've undertaken that wouldn't have decimated housing or displaced huge numbers of people. Hamas doesn't get immunity because it turns its own people into human shields.

    Does Israel have the right to defend itself?
     
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    What would Israel’s response be if Hamas was hiding in Israeli hospitals and embedded itself into Israeli infrastructure? Would you be ok with the collateral damage that causes? I wouldn’t.
     
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    the Noah’s ark idea
     
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    Straight from the horses mouth.

     
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    I might have to be if the alternative is that the enemy who attacked me and exists for my destruction deliberately uses its own people as shields. If al-Qaeda had set up its operations under Kabul's largest hospital after 9/11 I don't the American government would've been wrong to attack the hospital if there was no other way of destroying its enemy. The fact that Hamas is willing to do that - put their own people and infrastructure in harm's way - and expects to be treated as invincible as a result is evil. They don't get to escape retribution because of their tactics. If Israel refused to retaliate because Hamas was using its own people as shields it would only embolden Hamas to attack them more.

    You're dodging the question: does Israel have the right to defend itself?
     
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    I don't think he's overcompensating, though. He has the same Nazi mindset. The only difference he has from his Nazi ancestors is the ethnicity/religion he targets.

    If Hitler were the leader of Germany today, he'd slaughter Muslims and Turks who live in Germany. If he lived in Nazi Germany, he'd hate Jews. It's really that simple.
     
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    You have literally no proof there's a Hamas headquarter under any hospital in Gaza. The terrorist state of Israel has killed thousands of civilians, raided the Shifa hospital, planted a few AK's, and called it a day, and we haven't heard of it since.
     
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    It's not a genocide, so, no, but I am genuinely interested in your answer to the question.
     

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