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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. Ankara1923

    Ankara1923 Member

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    I can't get your football comparisions.
    1. There was a quite time between Pele's real playing days (just ignore Cosmos circus time) and Maradona. Within that time Argentina won the world cup with Fillol-Tarantini-Passarella-bertoni-Luque-Kempes.

    2. Pele-Beckenbauer-Cruyff played at the same time (1974 world cup) as Zidane and Ronaldo (el fenomeno) played at the final of 1998. All top 10 players.

    3.Senna and Proust was competing each other at Formula 1.
    4.Karelin, Hector Milan, Hamza was wrestling at the same time, all in greco-roman style.
    5.UK produced three all-time greats 1500 metres athletes at the same time: Lord Coe, Steve Ovett, Steve Cram.
    5.Shaq and Hakeem played at the same time as Kareem and Bill Walton did same. All of them great centers.

    It is more often great sportsmen/politicians/authors/film directors perform at the same time. Rivalry brings greatness. And if a team becomes very successfull, it is very probable that some prodigy flourish: 1974-Rummenige, 1978-Maradona-1994-Ronaldo (the original one) France's successes and Thierry Henry and Nicolas Anelka.

    Bresson-Godard-Truffaut lived at the same time as Scorsese and Coppola. Kurosawa and Bergman were contemporaries. Tolstoy and Dostoevsky/ Orhan Pamuk and Kazuo Ishigoro exist in same time period.

    Jokic became very successfull and Alp follows his footsteps.

    It is very common to have greats at the same time as having mediocre politicians simultaneously.
     
  2. daywalker02

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    Sengün will never have Mile High Club and Altitude advantage unless he is in Denver.

     
  3. daywalker02

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    I actually like what the Pacers are doing and pair that up with Sengün but still keeping Myles Turner.

    If Rockets can get the same blue print.


     
  4. rocketchamp

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    The competent GM that drafted him? How can our GM be incompetent but competent enough to draft him over a dozen other teams?
     
  5. j@amc

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    What I see Indiana doing is running. They make a concerted effort to run a break on every possession. Their wings are flying down the court; their shooters lock into position, etc.

    The Rockets don't have the shooters, but they should make a habit of running between the circles and pushing the pace. Maybe as the season wears on we can see a better break. If you're going to play small, you have to play to your strengths and get down the court for easier shots.

    Maybe when Amen get out on the court, we can start to see some increased tempo.
     
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    Luck
     
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    just finished watching the pacers, for the first time all season :(
    Asked myself why aren’t we playing faster and how is Haliburton so good and Green :confused:
     
  8. daywalker02

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    The Kings ransomed their future for a few years of Playoff basketball........
     
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    You are changing the question in the middle of the evaluation. This is not statistically correct. You can argue it philosophically but then again evaluation of a probability problem starts from the semantics anyway. Therefore you can not alter the wording by “considering”.
     
  10. Tom Bombadillo

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    The three best centers I have seen in my life are Dream, Shaq, and Jokic.

    I love Moses, Kareem, Walton, etc... I also understand that Kareem has a pretty damn solid GOAT case. But for me, purely eye-test, the three above are special special. These three guys are multiple levels above even HOFers... They are in the 2% of the 2%.

    Alperen Sengun is not Jokic, Hakeem, or Shaq. BUT he can be truly great in his own right. He can be a cornerstone piece, and he is not getting replaced by Bruno Fernando, Mo Bamba, or Myles Turner you DORKS. :D

    I expect 25-12-6 for a decade in Houston. And I expect a top-10 defense with him improving on that end year after year. You add a legitimate star next to Alperen and our role players, and things get nasty. Udoka will pluck this guy If we don't have him already. Cheers!
     
  11. tagedieb

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    I tend to agree with this, Sengun has excellent court vision and good anticipation of where his teammates will be but Jokic is out of this world. Jokic not only sees where people are, but it is as if he has a remote to guide them to his passes. His anticipation is that good.

    If Sengun reaches 70% of Jokic's effectiveness, with a good core around him, Rockets can be a perennial play-off team.
     
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  12. Gergin

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    Alpi has to hit his free throws because he plays much more aggressive than Jokic and he could be a 10 FTA per game player in his prime while Jokic right now averages a career high 6.4.

    Even if prime Alpi has the exact same stats as prime Jokic, the way he produces them will be different and this will affect the team around him. You can use the Nuggets as an inspiration but I don't think you can completely replicate them.
     
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  13. Old School74

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    That kid likely took Probability in High School. Have you?
     
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    Six Balls.
     
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  17. plegus

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    I have a BSc in Statistics.
     
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  18. Old School74

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    well, I am intrigued in the conversation, then. Please carry on.
     
  19. AlperenSengun

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    I have a phd in probability :)
    there is no philosophy here. The odds of having two of something and its being small is relwvant when none of the two happened. Pnce the first one happened, the odds of the conditional probability of the second happening is relevant, which is not that small anymore. You cannot say alpi is unlikely to become a top center like jokic because it is unlikely to have two of them. That reasoning is flat out wrong.
     
  20. AroundTheWorld

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    I have an MBA that included courses in statistics. You are correct.

    Carry on.
     
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