Actually very few players in league history have put up Green's numbers at his age with his efficiency and every year there are high draft pick high usage players on bad teams.
All I see are hyper-athletic Kobe-like numbers, demonstrating generational efficiency and a killer mentality. I challenge you to find a better player than Jalen, who is 21 years of age or younger.
I smell envy and animosity here. Are you attempting to undermine Jalen simply because he is the FACE of the franchise? What is the foundation for this backstabbing conspiracy? Where were you when Jalen singlehandedly dominated the Grizzlies???
I'm going to stand by what I've said... our fanbase doesn't deserve a super talent like Jalen... We are wasting him.
Porter was better than Green last year but not by a ton. It really doesn’t matter when your character both on and off the court are below average.
actually his finishing has improved at the basket, his problem is when he doesnt get all the way there tbh.
It is the result of him coming into the league not ready.....yes he can score like the best of them but that is all..... And now it feels like this is his real rookie year..... 2 years of mileague and the G League years for nothing other than getting the 2nd pick millions.
So what? Rockets were also tanking the last 3 yrs it's not like they were title contenders. Jalen fits the time line and he already has good fit and chemistry with both Sengun and Jabari. Obviously you can point to generational talents like Ant but the reality is those weren't available to us at the time. I'm happy with Jalen because his hyper athleticism, his playmaking/scoring threat and most of all his unselfish personality and coachabilty makes him a really good partner for both Alpi and Jabari.
So nothing but it means if he is such a great player, we would not have to make up so many excuses for him....... Overall the stats do gloss over what is happening with inconsistency......
Did you even read the post comparing Green to other star guards in their 3rd year? Oh yeah Klay Thompson, Bradley Beal, CJ Mcollum, Jamal Murray all busts amirite? https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/jalen-greens-3rd-year-analysis-vs-current-sgs.321669/ There's no need to make excuses for him because he is already playing at an average NBA player level at only 21 yrs old.
You have been a long time poster here but even you do not understand that comparisons are nothing. Everyone does not grow at the same rate. And McCollum is not a star guard....lmao. Has he made several All Star Games? He is considered fringe but never made the leap until he was old and had productive years so far. Jamal I would consider star but more in the Playoffs.... Klay has always been great at shooting, Movement and Defense but mediocre at everything else. I would call him a great Specialist than an All round star player. You are right about them being interesting players but other than Beal and maybe Klay who is also just a Top 25 type of player......nobody was a lock to be a star. Jamal and Jalen Brunson are nice surprises due to hard work....
I agree with you on that, everyone doesn't grow at the same rate. But it tells you that Green is not delayed or a bust given lots of other players performed at that rate at that stage in their career. You talking saying crap like "If Green was such a great player we wouldn't make excuses for him" is just wrong because at this point in his career he is performing the same as other star guards. Is that proof Jalen will be a star like those other guys? Of course not, but it means criticizing him right now is premature. I don't even get the inconsistent complaints because the dude is 21. If he isn't inconsistent now when should he be inconsistent? When he is 28? LOL. It's part of growing up dude. Of yeah, it's Jalen's fault he was inconsistent the past 3 years. You mean when he was a rookie till now? LOL bruh. If he is 26 and still inconsistent then yeah we have a problem. But that's 5 years away and not now. So no, I disagree that comparisons are nothing, they just aren't everything. You need to look at all sorts of data before you make a decision.
I agree with all that is stated. Here is the rub, is he a max extension for the Rockets go forward with all the other players coming off of rookie contracts looking to get paid. I am sure he thinks he is (as he should). He went #2 and already makes 10M+ a year. We have seen there is no market for a Bull’s return for Zach LaVine (Green’s most common comparison). It’s going to get very messy around here. With 5 other players watching very closely. This is why I want to move him now. FYI this is how we got James Harden, because of a similar situation.
Where did I say he was a bust.....I said he wasn't a sure fire superstar like Lebron or Mike or anyone who came out with a full package. The term bust has been overused like a wet sock......there are nuances all over the place. He is an enigma of a player and I do not like surprise players......you get a box of riddles.... What worries me is that he thinks he can score in 2 Quarters, facilitate in 2 other quarters and defend in 3 Quarters..... How can you have complete games that way......chopped game bits everywhere.
The problem with him is he skipped a lot of grades and years to be somewhere he was to be on paper. Then you find out he can only get by and has a few good grades but mostly his fundamental knowledge has tons of holes......and it was too early to have him skip those years. Regrets set in. If you compare him to a kid in school.
We can worry about that in 2 yrs, right now it is premature. I understand your point but this is Risk management. It's better to risk getting low return for Jalen Green later then trade him now and miss out on a possible star if he blows up. You won't get a star return for Jalen so what is the point of trading him?
