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Random Trade Thread 2023-24

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jul 10, 2023.

  1. OremLK

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    I would be more enthusiastic about the idea of acquiring Bridges if he were a year or two younger. I just don't like the idea of acquiring guys who are going to be in their thirties when we're ready to contend. It's hard to win in the NBA, it can take a number of years, so the bigger a window you can open for yourself the better.

    I also think Mikal is already topped out and is more of a third option kind of guy. I think Jalen's ceiling on offense is a bit higher and he could be a second option if he maximizes his potential. Maybe as an overall player you're right, given that Bridges is a fantastic defensive player. Even still, I just don't think he's quite good enough offensively that I'd be comfortable with him as the go-to play finisher behind Sengun. Maybe if I felt more confident about Jabari becoming an all-star caliber player, or if we had more to go on with Amen or Cam, but that's just not the case yet, as much as I like all three of those guys.
     
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    27-30 is prime. A player like him will be all-star level for at least 5 years. We have an incredible amount of young talent and no need for more draft picks. If a player of his caliber comes available for that low a price, you jump on it. I like Jalen a bunch and won't trade him for anything less, but you are severely overvaluing those Net picks. This is close to a straight up trade and the Nets won't do it anyway. We are in a unique position to be both very young and competitive this year and next. We still have tons of flexibility even if we did this trade.
     
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    He is 27 for goodness sake. I guess we just disagree on how far we are from competing. With Bridges and a few other tweaks we are competing next year. FVV comes off the books, if we want him too, before the 25 season. Bridges last under contract. Both would garner more than two mediocre 1st round picks and there is no guarantee that Green will be better than Bridges ever.
     
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    I'll say this, if Rockets were able to get Bridges on this team everyone here would be saying Jalen Who? His impact on both ends of the floor would be immediately felt and with a Coach like Udoka he would be playing better than he is in Brooklyn.
     
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    Absolutely. Gobert was 30 when traded to Minnesota and look at the haul they got. No way the Nets take that package, but if they did we should jump all over it and I actually am a patient Jalen fan and think he will be a very good player some day. If you look at the all around game, offense and defense, Bridges should be all NBA most every year.
     
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    I don't see how we compete in the current league without an elite level perimeter player and Bridges isn't that. If we were moving Green I think it needs to be for somebody that can fill the void the Rockets are hoping Green can.
     
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    Good target but I just don't see Indy doing that now. However, Myles would put us over the top.
     
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    Myles is really good, but Sengun is our future. Just a couple of years ago, Myles was being shopped, because he couldn't stay on the court. This is a really stupid trade and Indy would jump all over it.
     
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    I have to ask - what team is going to send us the equivalent of an actualized Jalen Green for an unactualized Jalen Green?
     
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    I just generally think we're at least a couple more seasons away from seriously contending for a championship, and that would be an optimistic scenario. If you look throughout NBA history, the best player on a championship team is almost never younger than age 23-24 or so, and usually at least 26-27ish. So we're looking at a few years at least before our young guys start hitting that age range.

    So maybe if we're really fortunate, 2025-2026 (Bridges will be 29) could be a contending season, but more realistically something like 2027-2028 (Bridges will be 31). And as soon as we hit that stage, I'm thinking about how many years we can keep it going. If Bridges is 29-31 already, how much longer is he going to be productive at that point? Khris Middleton is a somewhat similar player, and he's already kinda fallen off a cliff at age 32.

    Sure, Bridges is the perfect age if you want to contend now, I'm just not convinced a core in their early 20s can take us deep into the playoffs.
     
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    Well the real core would be VanVleet, Bridges and Brooks with a rapidly rising star in Sengun and high level young talents in Smith, Eason, Thompson and Whitmore. Not to mention solid vets in Jeff Green and Holiday. Not saying that's Championship level yet but a year or two from now when Sengun and the young guns have matured a bit more and more importantly Udoka has had time to get his offensive and defensive schemes fully implemented your looking at a very competitive team.

    Anyway, getting Bridges is highly unlikely as Brooklyn is looking to build around him. That said, if their team is trash come the deadline and the hope has diminished enough in their org, they may be willing to pull trigger if it means getting their firsts back and a young talent in Green. Not likely though.
     
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    Not many teams have won championships without at least one top 10 player in the NBA. It has happened on rare occasions, but even then, you usually had multiple guys who were at least kinda close to that level. If we're talking FVV, Bridges, Brooks, Sengun as the best players, honestly, I would be surprised if any of them make the all-star game this season, even Alpi, who again is way younger than most championship-winning star players. I just don't think we're that close. I think we're a .500 team this season if we're lucky, and next season maybe we're a few games over .500. It's going to be a gradual process of evolution for our young core to slowly climb, a few wins a season, into the contending category.
     
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    Nobody unless a player like that asks out next off-season. That's why the Rockets are probably better off waiting to see what they have in Green, Cam, and Amen before making any big trades. The team has cap space this off-season and probably a lottery pick from the Nets.
     
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    You’re an idiot
     
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    Myles is the type of player you pair with Alp. He’s a complimentary piece to Alp. He’s nowhere near as good as Alp or have the upside Alp does.
    Trolls will troll though. Just a flat out dumb person
     
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    Agreed
    The goal is to have M Turner next to Sengun
    Helps cover Alpi’s deficiencies while providing range and shooting
    Doubt that Indy makes him available
     
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    You don't pair Turner and Sengun together, the frontcourt would be too slow and thats been tried before, remember Turner and Sabonas?

    You pair Turner with Jabari Smith. Although, Turner is not as quick as Jabari, he can block shots and hit the 3!
    .Also, Turner would spread the court more for Jalen, Brooks and eventually Cam Whitmore.

    You pair Sengun with Chet or Wemby. We were one draft spot away from having the perfect frontcourt.

    However, Indy is not trading him, so its just a pipedream
     
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  18. OnlyRockets

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    A lot of name-calling and very little quality information...

    This brief description sums up SOFs.
     
  19. OnlyRockets

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    SOFs are aware that Indy wouldn't even accept this trade... Turner is worth more than all of our centers put together.
     
  20. OnlyRockets

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    If Dallas offers Doncic and Irving, I wouldn't reject them outright. Jalen has a greater potential than the two combined.
     

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