It depends, guys who are fundamentally just better like Jamal Murray, Jalen Brunson have not made many AS games....it is just luck and voting.... DeAaron Fox also only made just 1 or 2 appearances.....and because of other players' injuries.
I'm in agreement with you--all-star caliber does not have to mean all-star appearances. But if Jalen becomes Jamal Murray 2.0 (especially in the postseason) I'd be ok with it.
His IT factor is not really as high as some of the other 2nd Options.... As explosive as he is, he is not as explosive as McGrady for example..... As fast as he is, he does not finish as strongly as a Russell WB when he was 22. Francis looked more consistent when he was young....although not scoring that much.
Sengun just swooped in and hogged the spotlight, kinda out of the blue. Honestly, not sure he's earned all that hype. But Jalen? If he goes hard in the paint and gets up like 19 shots, dude's got a legit shot at smashing some scoring records, especially since he's only in year three...
No, not out of the blue. Several people saw in year one he was the better player than Green. More people saw last year he was still a better player than Green. Even more people now acknowledge he is miles away a far better player than Green. There's nothing out of the blue about it. What's out of the blue - is when Jalen has an efficient and good game.
Ah, I see the love for Sengun is strong! But let's hit the brakes for a sec. So, Sengun's got a shine to him, and I'm not gonna ignore his skills. He's smooth with it sometimes, but "miles away a far better player than Green"? Let's unpack that. Jalen Green's got that it-factor, you know? Sure, his shot selection has been a bit like my Aunt Linda's matchmaking skills—hit or miss. But making Sengun look like the second coming of Hakeem has got some recency bias goggles on. Sengun's footwork and post moves are tight, yes, but better player overall? It's not just about what you do when the ball's in your hands; it's also about when it ain't. Defensively, Sengun can sometimes look like he's got an invite to every pump fake party, and not in a good way. He might rack up the boards, but his chair defense (you know, when you pretend there's a chair behind you?) could use some tightening up. And let's talk the modern game. It's about space and pace. Green's got the rockets for it; Sengun, not as much. He can get schooled on the switch and out there in the perimeter—it's a barbecue chicken alert. I'm all for giving players their roses, but let's not act like Jalen’s high-flying, heart-stopping moments aren't what gets the seats filled. His ceiling is like that apartment in the city with "unlimited potential," just needs the right touch. So yeah, folks are quick to sleep on Jalen when he's not splashing 30-point games, but basketball's a sport of ups and downs. It's a five-player dance, not a one-man show. And while Sengun's got moves, we can't be calling every sidestep a moonwalk, you feel me?
Please watch people like young LBJ, Luka who got the It - Factor. Green is not going to fill the most seats, he is not dropping 40s every night to do that. If he was, no contest, I agree, but he is not.
Talking about having the "It Factor," we're talking about game-changers, right? Young LBJ and Luka are in their own league—facts. But let's not sleep on Jalen Green too fast. First up, packing a stadium isn't just about those 40-point headline grabbers. It's charisma, style, and the promise of raw potential—stuff Jalen's got in spades. Remember, this kid's a human highlight reel. His vertical's off the charts, and when he goes airborne, it's an 'everyone-get-your-phone-out' moment. Seats get filled 'cause fans know there's always a chance of seeing something viral. On dropping 40s, indeed, he's not doing it every night. But yo, who is? Even among the best, those nights are special—like spotting a shooting star. But Jalen's got that explosive first step, the kind that hints he could get there. Growth isn't instant. Remember, MJ didn't start by dropping 63 in the playoffs; it was a build-up. Down to Sengun? The guy's got skills, no doubt. He's a worker in the paint and his footwork's like an elaborate dance. But in a league that's shooting threes like it's going out of fashion, his style doesn't scream "21st-century basketball." That's not to say he ain't good, but does he warp defenses or change a team’s entire dynamic? That's the real question. Now look at Jalen—kid's built for the modern game. Speed, shooting, and that above-the-rim play that just captivates. So yeah, maybe he ain't doing 40 a night, but give it time. Greatness doesn't always announce itself with a bang. Sometimes it's that steady drumbeat, getting louder each season. Keep an eye on him; he's got the makings of one of the best young players we've seen in a minute.
These guys all took some time to grow too. Took about three seasons for Fox. 4 for Brunson. Same for Murray. Like it usually takes time. He's actually improved a lot on defense this year, he's become a better overall player, as indicated by his BPM, VORP, and quite honestly the eye test. He's not the dynamic unstoppable guard we'd hope but...honestly, it's because he's oddly two different players. A different player at home, a different one on the road. Once we get home Jalen to travel we'll be eating well. It'll happen. All good things are worth waiting for. I told people to be patient with these kids, they are young. Most players do not come into the league dominating, need 3-4 years to get it. We are right on schedule.
Green would not have to compete against the slew of guards that played before him. This NBA is watered down to the last spot. Kobe vs Iverson vs Tmac vs Vince vs.....all those guys.....I do not see the quantity and quality.... It is a league problem that keeps on happening, the players getting worse and worse. Minus the European Stars. No wonder the Lebrons, Durants and Currys will play till they are 40..... Bari and Green would have been eaten alive in the past.
Give ime a year or so to work his magic. Folks acting like green is being a toxic diva refusing to improve. Man just almost got his career derailed by the incompetent silas and playing alongside head honcho kpj. If ime can't save him then u anti green folks can start bragging to satisfy your weird A$$ egos. Clearly if u guys stop overreacting the improvement is there just inconsistent
I said statistically but really should have said offensively statistically. Without even looking I’m sure Jalen shows poorly on defensive stats. Those guys were all solid to elite on D… but I think that’s sort of Jalen’s ceiling if he ever fills out more and can body guys up. To your question no I don’t make a deal to get rid of Jalen for someone like Clarkson, etc. I instead would opt for keeping Jalen, support Ime if he wants to move him to 6th man, not extending him, and plan on taking him to RFA unless I get a bargain hometown discount extension. Again he still does have games or even quarters where he has bursts of offense that really do help. Given his liabilities though he just might need to be moved to 6th man or at the very least start, come out early, and play with the bench unit like CP3 used to. I just simply don’t trust the guy and the coaching staff has no reason to either. I think they just know he’s really the only guy who can manufacture bursts of offense.
I expect Green to bounce back with a good game against Denver. But the way Green has been playing, I don't think he's worth the Max given his current limited repertoire and weak mindset. Not being able to freelance for the first time in his career has really dispirited him. He still has occasions where he'll play ISO hero-ball and lose us the momentum. He seems like one of those players that plays well 1 out of every 3 games. He'll show up one game, then disappear for the next few. He's young as many have pointed out, but I have serious doubts about him long-term. If he can't become a consistent and efficient scorer/defender under Ime, not sure where he can.
He is not a poor finisher at rim. In the past two seasons, his problem was bad decision driving in and forcing difficult shots at rim. He has improved a lot this season. His at-rim % has jumped from 60% to 73%.
MJ wasn't a thing when he was 21. I believe it's not far-fetched to see Jalen displaying glimpses that he is on track to becoming a superstar. Jalen is superior defensively and is more creative at the same age. In the meantime, Jordan played simple college ball.
Nope, but I don't want us to upset our superstar. To achieve his goals, he needs the support of the fan base. It's all about mentality now, as he doesn't feel compelled to showcase himself. He can't accept that a no name foreigner is getting the spotlight, and it's disrespectful in the extreme.
