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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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    This is unfortunately pure nonsense, I am not parroting the narrative of Western leftist media.
    Hamas is in fact a result of decades of oppression.

    Jews were living in the Middle East and in arab countries for centuries before the creation of Israel and it was in fact the horrendous actions towards jews in Europe by Germany that caused a christian country to try to wipe out all jews. And long before that jews in Europe were suffering due to massive prejudice and hatered in Europe.

    Jews have been oppressed in Europe for hundreds of years in the most heinous ways which was the reason why the nation Israel was created to start with in the Middle East. So basically jews were offered land in the middle east as a result of the most heinous crimes in modern history. Since the creation of Israel people in the territory in Palestine have been exploited, occupied and abused and that is a fact you can't get away from.

    Jews have every single right to have a land of their own, especially considering the suffering that they were put through by the christian European power house German. But brutalizing and abusing palestinians and occupying land is not a normal response from the state of Israel.

    And yes, abuse and misery is often related to extremism and there is plenty of research that backs up that statement. Just look at the jewish paramilitary group "Nakam" that had a plan to murder 8 million germans after WW2 to avenge the holocaust.

    And it's kind of ironic if you are american considering the fact that the US, a christian country, has been war mongering and destabilizing the middle East and many other countries for many decades now. You don't see normal people blame christianity for the war mongering abuse by the the US. And no, I am not a muslim, in fact, I respect all religious people but the concept of religion has never been my thing.

    While antisemitism is a fact and a disgusting act, so is hatered towards civilian palestinians and muslims.
     
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    Breaking:
    The US has occupied a big chunk of Mexico and made it an open prison camp and they've abused civilian mexican for decades. Let's normalize that.
     
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    "The Vasa" is the most american thing I've heard, don't be a dummy, that is not what it's called. You seem very uneducated and the fact that you lack the ability to discuss the topic and instead go on to bizarre childish tirade says a lot about you and your lack of mental capacity.
     
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    That was a nice long wall of text, but it does absolutely nothing to address the fact that
    • Muslims hated and expelled (from Medina) and killed Jews going all the way back to the pedophile warlord founder of the ideology, and from then on throughout history
    • Muslim Arabs attacked Israel immediately after it was founded, when there were no alleged "decades of oppression"
    Yet, you write as if their hate against Jews, and the creation of Hamas were "just a reaction to decades of oppression".

    No, they hated Jews before Israel was created, and they would still hate Jews if Israel didn't exist.

    Also, Muslim Arabs, specifically women and LGBTQIA people are better off and have more human rights in Israel than in Gaza or the West Bank, or in fact any other Muslim majority state in the region. These minorities are much more "oppressed" under Hamas and Fatah and whoever the rulers in Muslim majority countries are than in Israel.

    That is a fact that gets conveniently ignored by the Leftist narrative.

    So spare me this "decades of oppression" crap.

    The Left "cares" about women and gays, unless they get oppressed by political Islam, then it's fine.

    And the Left (incl. UN, BBC, etc.) doesn't care about blaming those who commit mass killings (see: Iran, North Korea, Syria, etc.), unless it's Israel (even in self-defense, after the largest genocide against Jews since the holocaust, and thousands of rockets being fired against them continuously) - when it is Israel, the Left is OUTRAGED.
     
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    Israel left Gaza in 2005, Gaza wasn't an "open prison camp".

    You are uneducated. Go back to your fake "Boggy Cousins" posts.
     
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    Gaza is in fact an open prison, people can not move freely and they are subjected to a air, water and land blockade by Israel.

    And we also have the West bank where Hamas is not a thing, illegal settlements and every day abuse signed by the Israeli government is a daily thing. Who are you trying to fool?
     
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    FWIW, I think the Tweeter is too positive about Germany. The current government is all talk and does nothing against the Islamists. In fact, there is still uncontrolled inmigration of more of them.
     
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    If you are in fact Swedish, you should research who has the highest rate of rape in Europe, and who is committing the rapes.
     
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    Haha, you are an idiot.
    You are not capable to discuss the matter so you try to put focus on bizarre things and statistics you obviously don't have no clue about. The rape laws are the most strict and well written probably in the world to protect women and every single part of an abuse is considered as one rape charge, so one single victim can be counted to 30 acts of rape due to how they collect the numbers and count the cases in Sweden.

    Copying random twitter links and spamming them is not called a discussion, educate yourself. Instead of going on to random bizarre discussions, try to discuss the topic.

    It's funny, both you and the other guy in the thread tried to take the discussion on a whole different topic just so you won't have to discuss the topic itself. The other guy was more interested in discussing where Alberta is located and a museum he could not refer to properly. And you switched the gear completely and started to talk about rape victims in Sweden. Don't be an idiot.
     
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    Answer this question:

    Do Muslim women and Muslim homosexuals have more rights in Israel or under Hamas?
     
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    Wow, are you really this dumb?
    So now you are trying to justify occupation and apartheid by this bizarre scenario. And I can promise you that women and gay people in Palestine despise Israel due to the fact that they are occupying land and brutalizing civilians for the sake of power.

    I think Hamas is utter crap, but fact remains that they exist due to israeli abuse, occupation and how they are brutalizing civilians.
     
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    Nope. You are clueless.
     
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    You are clueless, like you are the definition of a dumb person.
    So instead of discussing the topic after your tirade of one-sided spam from Twitter and bizarre statements you managed to come up with two things:

    1. Sweden's rape statistics (which you had no understanding of)
    2. Asking about gay people's rights under Hamas rule

    Like you are the epitome of a person that is emotionally invested in something that unfortunately you have very little understanding of.

    Educate yourself instead of being a twitter spammer. I could do the same thing and upload videos of bombed palestinians babies but a normal person would try to discuss the matter, not just act like a vile kid.
     
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    Most of those videos are fake.

    Pallywood.

    Why do you ignore gay rights in Gaza?

    They will be much better off once Israel liberates them.
     
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    Haha, yeah, the same person (you) that spend bizarre amount of time sending random tweets from pro-Israel people are finding all truthful stuff but everything that puts Israel in a bad spot is fake. Makes sense.

    I don't ignore gay rights, I dislike Hamas as much as I dislike the terrorist Netanyahu and his puppet extremists. israel has no interest in liberating Palestinians, they have been abusing Palestinians for many decades and occupied land belonging to civilians for the sake of bizarre jewish settlements in the West bank. Hamas existing is mainly due to Israeli abuse.

    History proves that abused people tend to turn to extremism, the same thing happened to the jews. Read some about Nakam, the jewish paramilitary group that planned to murder 8 million germans to avenge the holocaust. Stop being an extremist.

    I would refute your posts if you would be pro-Hamas, meanwhile you would support me if I wrote puppet Netanyahu post.
     
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