Yeah, what an ass this guy is you are quoting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter Ritter was the subject of two law enforcement sting operations in 2001.[36] He was charged in June 2001 with trying to set up a meeting with an undercover police officer posing as a 16-year-old girl.[37][38] He was charged with a misdemeanor crime of "attempted endangerment of the welfare of a child". The charge was dismissed and the record was sealed after he completed six months of pre-trial probation.[38][8] Ritter was arrested again in November 2009[39] over communications with a police decoy he met on an Internet chat site. Police said that he exposed himself, via a web camera, after the officer repeatedly identified himself as a 15-year-old girl.[5] The next month, Ritter waived his right to a preliminary hearing and was released on $25,000 unsecured bail. Charges included "unlawful contact with a minor, criminal use of a communications facility, corruption of minors, indecent exposure, possessing instruments of crime, criminal attempt and criminal solicitation".[2] Ritter rejected a plea bargain and was found guilty of all but the criminal attempt count in a courtroom in Monroe County, Pennsylvania, on April 14, 2011.[5][40] In October 2011, he received a sentence of one and a half to five and a half years in prison.[3] He was sent to Laurel Highlands state prison in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, in March 2012 and paroled in September 2014.[4][7][8] (....) In April 2022, he posted a tweet claiming that the National Police of Ukraine was responsible for the Bucha massacre and calling U.S. President Joe Biden a "war criminal" for "seeking to shift blame for the Bucha murders" to Russia. The police only entered the city on April 2, a day after the dead civilians were discovered.[41] Investigators such as Human Rights Watch link the killings to the Russian military.[42] Ritter was suspended from Twitter for violating its rule on "harassment and abuse" after this, but his account was reinstated the next day.[43][42][44][45] Ritter is a contributor to Russian government-owned media outlets RT and Sputnik.[46][47] He compared Ukraine to a "rabid dog" that needed to be shot.[46][48]
This is the type of propaganda that bothers me. Neither battle is as morally clear a they are being portrayed. There is a legitimate argument to the amount of force used by the IDF and the amount of civilians being killed. Also IDF soldiers are brave as they are also facing a determined well dug in determined enemy and are getting killed too. Not in the Nearly the same numbers as Marines at Iwo Jima but they are facing big risks. Also while WWII has been frequently been upheld as the last moral war how it was fought was among the most brutal in history. In Iwo Jima US marines did things like summarily execute prisoners, desecrate and loot the dead. Things that even then were considered war crimes. In regard to killing civilians we all know how the war with Japan ended. Too many people in this conflict want to simplify it to clear cut moral boundaries. Make It about good and evil and “with us or against us”. It’s that kind of thinking that makes it so intractable.
It is very clearly a battle of Good vs. Evil. Hamas is evil like the Nazis were. The IDF is trying to eliminate the threat from murderers and rapists that manifested itself in the single largest genocidal mass murder against Jews since the holocaust.
I can answer them. 1) Israel 2) They didn't withdraw because they're nice people, they HAD TO withdraw. 3) I'm aware that Israelis who lived in Gaza in 2005 were SETTLERS and they had no home in Gaza. 4) Yes
I have no doubt that are and have been Hamas "soldiers" that have entered, stayed and left the various hospitals. Further I have no doubt that there were/are some Palestinians that support and protect Hamas soldiers, and there are also a lot of Palestinians that say nothing when they see Hamas soldiers out of self-preservation and fear. Are their actual command units under the hospitals? IDK, it doesn't really change much to me one way of another. I compare it to the IRA, who were murderers and terrorists, yet freely moved around in Ireland and even Northern Ireland. Same with the mafia. Hamas needs to be eliminated at this point - my larger concern is that the context of Hamas, why it exists and it's purpose wants to be conveniently forgotten by some on both sides for political and ideological reasons. The hardliners on both sides of the issue of Palestinian and Israeli relations are responsible for Hamas and the ongoing issue in that region.
What? I was told the Palestinians were peaceful people being held hostage by Hamas? 60% extremely support the October 7th massacre? Must be fake news.
I am surprised you are quoting someone you say you hate and call a "subhuman" Zionist, even though she spent much of her life fighting for civil rights for all and criticizing illegal Jewish settlements in the West Bank. Is she a Zionist who should be admired and quoted or a "subhuman" who should be hated?
I don't know that she really was a Zionist, perhaps early in her life but certainly not the second half of her life. She moved to Israel at a very young age from what I remember - and she openly admitted that Israel is an apartheid state. She called for the removal of recent Jewish settlements in occupied areas. This isn't the 1940's-1950's - Israel never should have been founded as a nation, but it is at this point. Israeli's are not going anywhere, and at this point many were born in Israel - and those that did not, mostly immigrated after Israel was a state. The focus at this point should be a recognition of the horrendous things the Israeli government has done to justify their existence and to keep the native Arabs from the region dominating and killing the outsiders. Now - the international community needs to push for the end of Jewish settlement outside the Israeli borders and allowing the Westbank and Gaza be independent countries with zero involvement from the Israeli's.
How were they occupying it if they had completely withdrawn (as you confirm in your answer to 2)). Make up your mind.
Nah - the Palestinians in the Westbank have been treated subhuman for years and the zealots aligned with Iran have used that to further cultivate a deep hatred of Zionists (or Jews - as they use the term like it is the same). I suspect if there were sufficient polling in South Africa in the past, or in the United States with Native Americans - the numbers would likely be very similar. People that are deeply oppressed and treated subhuman typically do not have fond feelings for those that oppress them.
Which wasn't the case two short years before the recent violence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-s...ever, cited by,against the two-state solution. That was even with the illegal Israeli settlements that they kept building. Another example of why this solution path being adopted doesn't end up making Israel more secure in the long run.
That is a possibility - that is what happens when you force 85% of the native people off their land and into the region next to their homes. When you have long simmering oppression and hatred (by both sides), you will usually have violence. So unless Israel decides to commit genocide in the entire Gaza and Westbank area - there is going to be violence, especially if apartheid continues to exist in the Westbank. Israel has tried to slowly and systematically decrease the power of Arabs in Israel and the occupied territory by supporting settlements.... and that has been effective in decreasing the number of Arabs, but it hasn't worked fast enough. Israel is in a tough situation. They took over a land that had native people that really did not like having their land taken, especially by non-muslims. They had to push them out, and make sure that there wasn't a majority of Arabs in Israel, or they would elect democratically, leaders that would kick the Jews out of Israel or kill them. So what are the Israeli's to do? It is easy to say oppression is wrong - but for the leaders of Israel, they are well aware that the founding of their nation is not recognized or legitimate - that they are minority and that the majority around them hate them and that Islam has erased all other groups other than the Jews in the region.... plus there are also some Zionists that want the entire Gaza and Westbank to be expansions of Israel proper. The only possible long term solutions are destruction and removal of the Palestinians and hope that Israel with Gaza and the Westbank is strong enough to fight off all comers and still keep negotiations strong with the US - OR exist the Westbank and let it become it's own Arab nation - but there are issues with that, as there are many Muslims in the Westbank in the immediate future that would want to erase Israel from the map - so Israel would need to hope that enough time passes that the flames settle down in the Westbank. What I know long term won't work is the status quo - that will just breed more terrorists and even more hatred and terrorist attacks.
Haven’t you seen the planet of the apes movies? Ape shall not kill ape but man kills man We are tribal and violent All wars are for land and resources @basso
What "oppression" have the people in Gaza had since 2005 from Israel that was not caused by Israel's legitimate security interests? They weren't too oppressed to not constantly fire rockets at Israel, run suicide bombings, build a massive tunnel system, stockpile tons of weapons, have a nice-looking beach area and funnel billions into the pockets of Hamas leaders. If they had invested that money into education and infrastructure instead, maybe just maybe they could have been on the way towards a mediterranean Singapore. But no, they are consumed by hate, so they invest all their resources into killing Jews instead. Also, this whole narrative of "Israel having taken over land" is untrue. There was never a state called Palestine. The Jews have as much of a right to that land as the Arabs. And you know what, there are roughly 2 million Arabs in the state of Israel, who are much better off than the Arabs in Gaza, the West Bank or any of the Muslim dictatorships around. Also, this whole "genocide" talk is nonsense. The population in the Palestinian territories has exploded. Not a very successful "genocide".
