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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. tinman

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    Fighting woke antisemitism with music
    At Columbia university
     
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    that you "misinterpret" something does not make it "true".
     
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    and good for Palestinian babies.
     
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    caution, language:

     
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    When and if I misinterpret something we can discuss it. It hasn't yet happened in this thread.

    It's been posted before, but this shows some balanced perspective, and isn't at all pro-Hamas.
     
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    I refuse to watch comedians pretending to do "news."
     
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    Your loss.
     
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    Ah yes, noted news reporter Wretchard The Cat.
     
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    Yes. 80% of the tweets used are "pretending" to do real news, but with less actual depth and nuance.
     
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    That's his Twitter handle, smart guy. It's Wretchard R. Murrow's account.
     
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    Only if they have your definition of anti-semitism : not supporting Jewish Supremacy over Palestinians in Gaza, west Bank and Israel proper.
     
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    wretched news for the anti-semitic, Hamas lovers here.

    Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said Monday that Hamas had lost control in the Gaza Strip, as the Israel Defense Forces moved to fully capture Gaza City.

    “There is no force of Hamas capable of stopping the IDF. The IDF is advancing at every location. The Hamas organization has lost control in Gaza: Terrorists are fleeing south, civilians are looting Hamas bases. They have no confidence in the government,” Gallant said, after holding an assessment on the fighting.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/galla...a-troops-kill-gunmen-who-fired-from-hospital/
     
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    more wretched news.

     
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    Truly sad to see so many of the Jews in Israel turn into essentially Nazis and dehumanize Palestinians. The Holocaust get our of Crimes Against Humanity Jail Free cards are being exhausted for about 95% of the world.

    I suppose it is just another example of how the trauma of the abused often turn into abusers.
     
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    Have you read either book? I am going to buy The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine and skip Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country on Earth.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2...lestine-that-have-climbed-us-bestseller-lists

    ‘Israeli talking points in Carrie Bradshaw’s voice’: what we can learn from two Israel-Palestine bestsellers
    An Israeli actor and a Palestinian American scholar present different narratives – one more dismissive than the other

    The war between Israel and Hamas did not start on 7 October. But when did it begin?
    Two books that have shot to the top of national bestseller lists in recent weeks attempt to answer that question, through divergent histories of the Israel-Palestine conflict. Currently at No 3 on the New York Times nonfiction paperback bestseller list is the pre-eminent Palestinian American historian Rashid Khalidi’s The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine: A History of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917-2017, which draws on scholarly research and the author’s experience to explain Palestinian dispossession and perseverance in the face of colonialism. At No 5 on the list is Israel: A Simple Guide to the Most Misunderstood Country on Earth by the actor and former Israeli envoy Noa Tishby, a breezy rundown of Israel’s national myths and talking points.

    You could judge them by their covers: Khalidi’s blurbs are from the Financial Times, the Nation and Middle East academics, while Bill Maher, Aaron Sorkin, Ritchie Torres and Ben Shapiro line up behind Tishby. Though both books are a few years old, Americans are turning to them to understand how and why Hamas could launch attacks on Israel that killed 1,200 people and kidnapped 242, according to that country’s defense forces, and how Israel could respond with an assault on Gaza that has already killed more than 10,000 people, according to the Palestinian health ministry, amid a humanitarian catastrophe.
    These books’ current popularity shows that Americans want to get into the history of this moment – but even in doing that, they are picking a side. Read together, however, they make clear the war about the war has been a century in the making.
     
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