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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    This is correct (the Jewish people I know in Florida are mostly not "rich", just educated and living a good life - they are some of the kindest and most moderate, reasonable people you will ever meet).

    I have met plenty of rich (actually, some insanely rich, including the richest Saudi Arabian - nice man) Muslims as well. Very smart ones, too. Very kind ones. But that was outside Berlin.

    I have met Muslims all over the world. I always listen politely. Almost all of them, whether poor, rich, educated, criminal, not criminal, buy into the "anti-Israel", "anti-Jewish" propaganda.

    Someone should do a media analysis of who pays for/dominates the narratives the Muslim mainstream buys.
     
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    There is no media conspiracy. The region became culturally Arab during the early days of Islam. And Islam is both religious doctrine and a political doctrine. So is Judaism.

    The legitimacy of Islam is derived from its success in overthrowing the pre-existing world order. But the Islamic world suffered from the same issues as the old world and it too was overwhelmed by the economic and political power that came with Industrialization. Capitalism and Communism became the creeds we fought over.

    Zealotry worked well when the difference in a victorious army and a defeated army was moral.
    Zealotry falls flat against modern warfare.

    Religion is a way to unify peoples who are otherwise divided (race and social class). But our life is divided globally on social class first now.
     
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    @Salvy
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    people who call Latinos, LatinX because they don’t know Spanish and think there should be transsexual words they made up

    certainly do not understand the Middle East or know how to make any Hebrew or Arabic word into woke trans binary fake sounds
     
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    You're an islamophobe who's trying to justify war crimes that are being committed against Muslims now. And you'd be out there slaughtering Jews if you were living in 1940 in Nazi Germany.
     
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    A little strong of an assumption, but it is frustrating to see people who only feel a way due to what propaganda is showing them.

    Doing full research, I don't think anyone should pick a side here.

    The only thing that should happen is for an outright cease fire.

    Everything else is just risky business.
     
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    Only "a little"... :rolleyes:
     
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    Do you think that Hamas should release the hostages?

    Do you think that Hamas should and would agree to an outright ceasefire?

    Do you think the Hamas members who raped girls, burned families and slaughtered women and elderly should be arrested? Killed? Brought to justice some other way? Be allowed to walk freely amongst civil society? Should be forgiven and excused?

    Do you think Hamas and Islamic Jihad will change their goal of killing Jews and eradicating Israel?

    Do you think Hamas should stop jailing and killing homosexuals? Threatening to behead women who don't wear hijabs or follow an Islamic dress code? Do you think women should be allowed to dance or play secular music? Do you think boys and girls should be allowed to swim and play together? Do you think girls should be allowed to go to school?

    Give honest answers, please.
     
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    Damn Anti-Semites...
     
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    The difference between Israel and the murderers you support is that these people are allowed to voice their opposition to Netanyahu. Your Hamas friends would just murder any opposition.
     
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    Bla bla bla
     
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    Do you think Israel should continue bombing women and children you mention above?
     
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    No, I think they should go to the safety zone like you suggested so the IDF ground forces can destroy Hamas like you also suggested. Any women who are harboring terrorist family members, neighbors or friends who raped & slaughtered civilians should turn them in, kick them out or move far, far away from them.
     
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    Yeah the problem is the ITF has actually no power to destroy Hamas as i also mentioned before. Especially in an urban guerilla warfare. They're currently keep getting hunted in Gaza, and they'll keep getting hunted until Israelis say enough is enough and get rid of their fascist dictator Netanyahu.
     

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