It's time to start thinking about moving Jalen before the deadline

I see some … Green shoots. (pun intended)
He’s definitely trying to be a more serious player and do things that help the team.
He’s chasing rebounds, he’s at least trying to track his man on D, even though not very successfully. He makes the right pass a lot of times.
I think this is the year he transforms from a Flash&Trash player into a mediocre player, the way 2021 KPJ transformed.
Maybe next year he can go from mediocre to good, and eventually great… who knows…

 

Jalen is already an above average scorer on a rookie contract, no way he is moved unless it’s for an established star. He and Sengun could be 2 of a ‘big 3’ on a contender in a few years.

 

may we please see how he adapts to real coaching, new systems, sets etc. He is the one scorer on this team, the one who can get his shot. Yeah, yeah, Alpi can but that’s the one ‘other’, and very different styles. Clearly.

 

If it was obvious, this thread would not exist.......there are question marks.

 

Largely based on expectations, people thinking Jalen has to be Kobe or bust He’s a nice young 2 guard with a ton of upside.

 

Go ahead, this crappy team lacks shooters to open up spacing for him to drive consistently.

Scorers need shooters to space the floor.

Then you'll see Jalen Green start destroying the league.

The additions of VanVleet and Dillon Brooks won't do long term and one contract is 4 years
while the other is probably unmovable until next year's trading deadline.

Jalen Green should decide to leave AS SOON AS POSSIBLE for greener pastures by way
of free agency. That's what the Process of the 76ers gets you. The draft picks of 3 years
prior leave while you try to up train the newest rookies.

 

A poor man’s version that is

 

He’s our highest draft pick since Yao. There’s a very good chance he’s not a top 5 pick from his draft. But he still has massive upside.

Jalen’s first two years have been disappointing, but it was always gonna take 3 years to really know how good he will be; he was raw. We really did sabotage his development his first 2 yrs. It was frankly criminal how Stone managed our most important prospect.

when I watch him I still see the possibility of a great player, but I continue to worry about his mental toughness and BBall IQ. His defense has already improved some and he’s dibbling less, taking less bad shots, but he’s a ways from being a really good basketball player.

because there’s still a reasonable chance that Jaken will be a star, and because Ime will help a lot, I don’t think we should trade him at the deadline UNLESS he regresses, or shows no improvement.

if Jalen doesn’t show improvement by February, trading him is a reasonable thing to consider, but I highly doubt Jalen doesn’t improve throughout the season.

 

He should be the shooter who opens up the space for everyone lol. If Jalen is still part of the brick brigade there will be no green pasture he can go to.

 

Stone gave him freedom to do what he wants, it's up to Jalen to improve his game. His first year salary already made him over a million dollars, he can already afford his own skills development team to develop himself if he wanted to.

Great players land in crap teams all the time, it's up to them to make their team good like MJ, Hakeem, Lebron, KD, Banchero etc If Jalen was serious about being a great player he will develop himself with his own resources and not depend on handouts from his team. Those should be supplementary but the primary responsibility of development should be himself.

Whether Jalen turns into a star is all on him, not on Stone. Stone actually took the risk to get him over Mobley so this kind of "mismanagement" crap is just an excuse.

 

Eh, using that game to make some kind of point is a bit disingenuous. (or maybe you saw the final stats but not the stat line).

Jalen wasn't "what we need him to be" in last nights game, in fact when he was on the ball, he was not good shooting 2 of 8 from 2 point range on a variety of drives and shots in the lane, most of which were the typical contested shots we complain about from Jalen.
Where he was good against Charlotte was in hitting 4 of 8 from distance, those shots coming off of the creation of Sengun & FVV (one from Jabari) on catch and shoot opportunities.



He was also 7 of 7 from the charity stripe.

In his 30 minutes 53 seconds of play he had a total on / off of -4 in a game they won by 9.

I really think that game kinda proves the point that on nights he makes his 3's he "puts up a decent stat line."

Hornets vs Rockets, November 1, 2023 | Basketball-Reference.com

That game alone raised his 3 point percentage from .250 (3 of 12) to .350 (7 of 20) for the season.

I'd take Jalen putting in 35%+ of his 3's off the catch and playing decent defense without the isolation possessions every night .... but that's not what happened.

The guys with the highest on off last night were Fred (+14), Amen (+10) and Tate (game high +17).
Sengun was +9, Uncle Jeff +2, Jock +2, Jabari -1, Brooks -3.

 

I really just don't understand why we would be worried about trading him 6-12 months before having to make a decision on his extension. Why do people act like we have to make a decision at some arbitrary date rather than exactly when it should be made? If we decide to trade him at the end of the season, the entire summer is plenty of time to do that.

What the haters don't get is if Jalen doesn't pan out, we're going to say he didn't pan out when it's fairly obvious. If that's the coming summer, then at that point we're NOT going to go "oh, so and so poster knew 1 year ago we should dump him." It would be irrelevant and we would still see you as someone who flipped a coin too early.

Anyhow, none of this will matter. He's going to have a great season and we're most likely going to have to pay him the max. I think these next 3 weeks with this insanely long homestand are the most important 3 weeks of his life. Homestands are a great opportunity to get extra practice and fine tune your game while having time to digest the information rather than hopping on/off flights constantly. Despite being at home, we have lots of high difficulty games in there which will also lift these guys' level. I believe a lot of doubts about Jalen will be gone after these 3 weeks, I'm expecting to see good improvement over that span. I've already seen glimpses of improvement in passing and defense so far this season. It was always going to be a rocky start for this season, so take a deep breath and wait till game 20ish for real takes on Jalen's future.

 

The Rockets mismanaged him by pairing him with a manipulative wanker in KPJ who kept calling him his "twin" but in reality was only looking out for himself, and being a terrible influence.

At the same time, Jalen has been immature and allowed it all to happen.

Hopefully, he will turn the corner under Ime.

 

While I think he will progress as a defender and part time playmaker, Ime is not known to be a great Offensive coach.

I am not too worried but I am also not holding my breath.

 

The disappointing aspect about his game is as JT Gatlin frequently pointed out is that he can go hot in 2 Qs and can go ice cold the rest of the game, that is how he gets his scoring.....

This is more the game of a bench scorer.

This has been ongoing now to Year 3.

 

His trade value right now probably is a protected 1st at best - i would just extend him at a reasonable number and see

 

Can you guys give him Jalen Green this Season to adjust Off Ball Real System with Alperen Sengun 2 Man Game with Ime Udoka New System.

Give Him This Season to Grow.

Rafael Stone and Stephen Silas are at complete fault for letting down the Rockets Last 2 Seasons of Kevin Porter Jr and Christian Wood b**** Fest and Outbursts by those 2 Losers.

Christian Wood Starting and playing Over Sengun Rookie Year, while Wood wanting 30 shots. Made me so Angry, while Sengun played 5 minutes or 19 unselfish minutes by passing the ball and caring about Teammates.

Silas really felt like a racist benching Sengun during his Rookie Year and Year 2 Bruno Fernando Starting over Sengun is the most Ridiculous thing Stephen Silas has ever done.

Wood is coming off the bench instead of Starting and KPJ is Banned Forever by the NBA.

 

Wood is coming off the bench not being a All Star is Pure Karma

KPJ thought Christian Wood was a All Star along with himself.

KPJ going to the club with Rockets and smashing the DJ Laptop while wanting to change the music is Pure Insanity.

Arkham Asylum is where These Jokers belong.

 

The only way you trade him is if there's a team out there dumb enough to think he's a star caliber player that would be willing to give you that kind of a haul for him....I don't believe that team exists.

Since he's already killed his trade value, the best thing you can do is see if he'll buy in to a more proper role only taking what defenses give him and not being the center of the offense while at least attempting to try on defense. I think in the end he's more of a fringe starter/energy guy off the bench, but that can be useful if he's willing to accept that kind of role.

If he's not and he hasn't earned a larger role, well, you don't have to give him an extension.

Trading him for a late first or a second doesn't really move the needle.