Why do we have an embargo on Cuba? Why are we involved with Ukraine (this aspect has been beat to death) Now we are playing global police in the Israel conflict Yet another example where our countries believes we have the right to control the globe.
Are you under the impression there's any country in the world that doesn't attempt to exert its influence anywhere in the world whenever it thinks it would be beneficial to its people? Do you think the US is unique in that? Do you think the US should *not* do that while countries that would like the US to decline and fail continue to do so?
Any country that goes through an empirical stage eventually loses its power. What our country is going through has happened time and time again. The US is already declining because we are too focused exerting our force all through the world. Our infrastructure is crumbling, education is terrible, our over all health is in decline, people are not having children, ect... I have no issue with giving up some of the power to other countries. We have everything we need on this side of the hemisphere. As Ive said in other threads, we should be investing our energies towards our neighbors south of us. Instead of robbing labor from China and other eastern countries, we should be paying our neighbors south of us well to build our products which will then help them develop their country. We dont owe Europe anything. Let them figure their **** out.
You sound exactly like an American isolationist during the late 1930's when Hitler was busy spreading fascism, hatred and bigotry, breaking treaties and pumping out lies to anyone fool enough to listen - and the whole time using all that to expand Germany by conquering Germany's neighbors. If you knew any history at all you would see the clear parallel between Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Putin. Based on your posts, you know little or none.
Except America didn't run the globe in the 1930's, running up massive deficits Please tell me these clear parallells between Hitler and Putin. Im ready for your great history lesson.
You're dishonest. There's are reasons I had you on ignore for the last few years. Here is my response below, the one you are running away from. I'm posting it again. That you are dishonestly asking for "a history lesson," one you don't need unless you seriously know nothing of American politics in the 1930's and what happened in Germany during the run-up to World War 2, which I don't believe for a moment. That, and haven't read the numerous posts from several others, as well as myself saying the same thing that I posted below, in one form or another. You are running away from responding honestly because it makes you look bad, and you look bad anyway. The parallel between Hitler and Putin has been widely discussed in the media and here. Of course, if you feigning ignorance about what Putin is doing to Ukraine and the danger to Europe of Russian expansionism, Europe, which you say you want America to leave and is filled with NATO treaty allies of the United States, is an attempt by you to defend Putin, which trump is keenly interested in doing - defending Putin and doing what Putin ardently desires - weakening NATO, which serves Putin's interests. Something trump will do if he somehow could get reelected - serve Putin. If that is deliberate, how strange. Is that what you are? A little form of trump? A dishonest tool, a tiny cog in Russia's attempt to influence American politics - unknowingly serving Putin's interests? You post like it often enough. You are doing it here. No, I'm sure it's some kind of strange coincidence. Perhaps you are simply as ignorant as you appear to be, as ignorant as you claim to be.
You, and others that you mention, are too busy trying to find parallels between Hitler and Putin. Me scoffing at this idea does not make me a Putin apologist or supporter. In nearly every internet debate/discussion, given enough time, the ultimate 'Hitler' insult will be thrown out. Generally when individuals start using the Hitler insult, I know they have reached the end of the line with their points. Also, the barrage of insults is a dead giveaway of falling prey to Godwins Law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law (Mike Godwin is a boomer Houstonian, so I suppose that should be taken into consideration) Here is Mike Godwin trolling on this very topic (but I am sure you will state he is breaking his own rule) Sums up many people in this thread.
how many UN resolutions were there condemning israel for illegal settlements that every country but the united states and israel (and sometimes canada) voted for? also, when obama tried to restore relations and loosen restrictions on cuba the right-wingers freaked out and trump ended up reversing his policies. also, people who supported george w. bush when he was president shouldnt be going around calling others "war mongers", talking about isolationism and how we shouldnt be world police. also, people who support republican/trumper politicians have no right to complain about fiscal responsibility.
Any country eventually loses its power, period. You only notice the empires because those are the ones history mentions. That's happening in all sorts of other countries too. It's like you think we live in the 1300s when things happening one side of the globe didn't affect anyone on the other. Countries like China and Russia aren't stupid enough to be ignoring things happening in the Western Hemisphere; we shouldn't be that stupid either to ignore what's happening in the East. We don't owe anyone anything. We do things because we consider them beneficial to ourselves. The money we spent over the last 80 years policing the globe and ensuring there wasn't another WW3 has benefited the US in many, many multiples of what we've spent. That it benefits other countries too is incidental. As others like to point out here, there's a reason we react differently to the situations in Ukraine vs Israel vs Sudan. That reason is self-interest.
Yeah, we should prop up our traditional allies rather than trash them. The trumpist isolationist view assumes calling them out or diminishing them is a display of strength but nations generally remember the scoreboard and the game always has its ups and downs. ASML, the company that makes half billion dollar lithography machines needed to mint semiconductors, requires a worldwide consortium to piece together all the parts necessary to make the most advanced devices the world has ever known. You can't just onshore all of that. China has been trying for over a decade and they're still five-ish years behind. And now we're telling them that they can't even export previous gen DUVs that could help Huawei in chip production. It's foolish to assume they would forgo billions in profits without an environment of goodwill and cooperation. Our companies already sell out their principles in hopes of extracting more china profits. Apple isn't worth 3T from time to time because of those great foo foo principles they shove down your throat in their ads and product installs...
I do think there is a point that the US shouldn’t. Be solving the worlds problem. I felt it was very dangerous when GW Bush, Tony Blair and the Neocons were pushing the idea that the west should be using force to reform other countries and spread democratic values. Ukraine isn’t that situation. The US isn’t forcing its values on the Ukrainians. They are fighting themselves for those values. This would be a far different matter if the US was invading Ukraine or Russia and forcing them to become a western liberal democracy. It’s the Ukrainians who want to be a western liberal democracy and they are defending themselves from the Russians who don’t want to see that.
Also anyone who thinks the US should be focussing on building our Infrastructure and building out manufacturing base should be supporting Biden. Contrary to the previous occupant who hosted about infrastructure weeks Biden actually is getting view infrastructure done.
