No, you didn't understand. The Israelis are winning, they can't be pushed out by their enemies. I am suggesting the "Palestinians" emigrate from their "open air prison" to anywhere on earth that will take them, among which are the United States, China, probably the UAE, wherever they need people.
Here's another report on the same matter. Illegal Israeli settlers and their violence in the last few years is why there is a growing voice among jewish people over the treatment of Palestinians. Imagine if MAGA types got to shoot their guns at people they don't like and have military personnel act as their bodyguards while they are doing so. That's a reality in the West Bank.
And what obligation does the PRC or even UAE have to take them? We see how much handwringing there is about immigration In the US why do you think other countries are different? Also do you believe that every people who are living in oppressive conditions should just move? Do you think they applies to Venezuelans who are fleeing an oppressive government?
No obligation. I said they would want to have them, just like I said the US should want to have them. I guess you missed that part. I think people who are trying to fight a war of conquest over a neighbor that repeatedly kicks their tail should give up on that idea and move to a more welcoming environment. I don't think there are many places that actually applies. It applies in the West Bank and Gaza. It applies in maybe some of the border disputes between India and Pakistan. It applied historically in the Sudetenland (not a lot of German attacks against France since WWII). If Venezuela had been attacking Colombia for the last 60 years and Colombia kept responding by killing 10 times as many Venezuelans and taking some of their territory, I would suggest that the Venezuelans in the Colombian controlled territory just head out for greener pastures though, yes.
If the Israelis were in the situation the "Palestinians" are in, I would. They are not. They are the winners, why would they leave? The same logic applies to everyone.
while you are completely unbiased, of course actually, I'm pretty sure you don't actually care very much, you just like to take a random position and argue, @NewYorker
So, doctors, patients, and civilians are now considered Hamas? Your true colors are shining through. You support collective punishment, which is considered a war crime. Ps. The claims about caring for the unborn are bs. Religious zealots are the worse. Not that much different from hamas.
Of course the situation is relevant. If someone lives in a flood plain, I would suggest they build a house to withstand floods. That wouldn't apply to someone who lives in a place where flooding is near impossible. When two sides are battling over territory, the side that is losing would be better packing up and moving to greener pastures. The side that is winning has no need to do that, they can take the territory through victory at arms. Your entire premise is asinine. The Hamas members at the hospital are Hamas. The doctors, patients and civilians are the human shields being used by Hamas. This isn't that complicated.
the arbitrary use of "human shields" has to be one of the most disingenuous things I've ever seen. Its almost as if combatants in civillian populations has only ever happened in Israel and nowhere else. Its a r****ded and malicious tactic. Yes, combatants don't normally declare themselves and go "kill me, kill me!!" If we fought our wars with the mentality Israel uses we wouldn't have civilian populations left. Either that or they run the most incompetent military in the world with 19 hamas killed for. 9000 civillians. Again, there's stormtrooper aim, or the acknowledgement that they put inexperienced reserves manning high end weapons supplied by the US with a disregard for civilian lives because running higher precision ops requires more training/skill Targeting a camp over 50+ casualties to kill maybe one commander who maybe was there shows how little they understand the situation and why theyre in this position in the first place (funding hamas to weaken moderates). And its not surprising when you know the US will take the financial and optics damage, come in and save them from any missteps. You have a country that lives off the US tax payer and puts the same collateral of stupid decisions on us. A great first step would be purging the Bibi regime.
That's why there are military bases. If you wanted to attack the US Marines in California, you would attack Camp Pendalton and the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center (aka 29 Palms). The Marines don't hide their ordinance under Cedars Sinai hospital or UCLA in the hopes that they won't be targeted by the enemy. That's the difference. If there were Hamas targets that were not among the population in Gaza, that would be what Israel would attack. Please, show us where the Hamas bases are that Israel should be targeting instead of the targets they have selected.
Dude...have you seen gaza? And yes, that's because hamas is a terrorist organization and doesn't represent the people of gaza who are victims as well, so you will have what you describe as guerilla warfar. See vietnam. See Iraq. See Afghanistan. See failed tactics there and convince yourself it will somehow work now. This human shield argument is starting to lose merit and is an excuse for laziness and incompetence. "Collateral" is common place in every discipline...whether it be the markets, healthcare (targeting cancer) etc. For some reason it has been redefined. I support israel and think hamas should be wiped out, but the current Israeli govt is packed with genocidal maniacs trying to score political points.
scott ritter ex-marine intelligence officer amongst other things, has been spot on since the iraq war. But I know that a lot of my compadres seem to be following 4chan and reddit twitter posts
