Your fantasy land scenario where Israel just surrenders and begs the international community (which has more UN resolutions against Israel than any other nation on earth) to please have the Palestinians round up Hamas and take all of the land they have been fighting over for 60 years is both pie in the sky and a terrible deal for Israel. They are winning. Why on earth would they ever agree to your proposal?
The maine shooter killed 18+ people and was a threat, I wonder why the area wasn’t level and in the end chalked upto him hiding amongst civilians..crazy how that notion sounds right? The silliest part is thinking that "the commander we maybe killed" is going to have any bearing on their war with hamas at large. Didn't make a dent and definitely increased recruits that watch a regime bomb women and children because a commander maybe walked through there at one point in time Do it on their own $$$, ukraine, egypt, israel and all these other leaches come after americans. Americans first.
well we see the result of Bibi which has resulted in the worst casualties in over 50 years (for both sides, and yes bibi ...he funded and propped up hamas), not to mention has put the world closest to WWIII it has ever been. Saudi is meeting with iran , their otherwise sworn enemy and have been meeting with china and russia. The stages are getting set and we are less safe because of the above policies. Engaging in a regional conflict because of Bibi and his crazy maniacs has the potential to destroy us. So I say this without hesitation, and the israeli press does too (the idiots over here for some reason don't get it)....continuing to support what bibi did is insanity and makes you a ****ing moron
They would do it because they don't have security against terrorist attacks. They have been winning since '48 and still don't have security against terrorist attacks. They would do it because they would receive not only greater security, but increaed trade, trading partners, and prosperity.
I would suggest the leader of Israel not prop up and support Hamas like he has for many years, in an effort to weaken the more moderate Abbas in the West Bank. I would suggest not committing numerous human rights violations like Israel has for decades. I would suggest not killing 75,000 Palestinians like Israel has over the last half century. I would suggest ending apartheid and stop moving in Jew settlements in the Westbank. Hamas wouldn’t be a viable terrorist organization if Israel didn’t create the perfect petrie dish. Also - stopping the faux surprise that Palestinians hate Israel, would help too. At this point Hamas has to be dismantled - but it long term won’t matter if all the other conditions exist, because another terrorist group will just emerge. This is Ireland on steroids… and unless Israel changes some policies and attitudes, this will keep going on. If Israel wants to prevent a Palestinian state (which Netanyahu does), then Israel will need to hold their noses and kill of the Palestinians and move more “settlers” in and just hope an Arab neighbor doesn’t go overboard. There is a reason we are at this point… and cause and effect, and at this point Israel has to take out Hamas- and then the powers that be need to hold Israel accountable. There is a reason most the world disagrees with how Israel has historically treated Palestinians.
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I agree with most of this. Unfortunately all of this should’ve been done decades ago. At the moment I don’t see any realistic solution. Israel will not leave Gaza alone after what Hamas did. Not responding to Hamas likely emboldens them to carry more out more Raids. Going after Hamas kills thousands of Palestinians further embittering Palestinians and so the cycle goes on and on.
So far, they're getting destroyed by Al-Qassam on the ground. The IDF seems to be very effective only when their targets are armless civilians.
Do you have any evidence backing that up? What I’ve been seeing in all the news reports is that the IDF is moving very cautiously. I’ve not heard even Hamas claiming they are killing a lot of IDF soldiers on the ground.
The manner in which Israel and Turkiye have fought against terrorist organizations is not very different. If the PKK were to orchestrate a similar attack to what occured on Oct. 7th- killing, raping, slaughtering 1,400 Turks and then run back to Erbil with 200 Turkish girls, babies and grandmothers, how do you think Erdogan and the Turkish Armed Forces would react? Honestly. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/iraq-turkey-airstrikes/ You already said you are for a 2 state solution. Yet, you use Zionist as a derogatory term and call them "sub-human" when, by the very definition, you are a Zionist- a person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. Do Turkiye, Israel, the U.S and other NATO countries not have a similar foe in ISIS, The Islamic State and extreme militant Islamic terrorist groups that want to force their brand of Shariah law on all people, commit human rights abuses, oppress women, homosexuals, kill infidels, etc., etc.? Are you not able to disagree with Erdogan when he refuses to call Hamas a terrorist organization? Hamas and the Oct. 7 attack are completely intertwined with ISIS and the Islamic State.
Israel doesn't recognize PKK as terrorist organization, and the US and the Europe doesn't recognize YPG/SDF as terrorist organization. Then why do you make a big fuss out of it when TR doesn't recognize Hamas or Al-Qassam as terrorist organization? The PKK has already done it many times in the last 40 years. And TR responded by launching operations against the terrorists, not the Kurdish civilian population living there. I don't use Zionist sub-humans as a derogatory term, that's what they are. And if you actually check out their bios etc. they're very proud of it. I already said Hamas is not an islamic terrorist group unlike ISIS or Al-Qaeda. If Israel wouldn't kill thousands of civilians before 1987, Neither Hamas nor Al-Qassam brigades would never be founded. If you kill a 10-year-old boy's entire innocent family, he'll seek revenge at any cost when he's 20. Hamas and ISIS are nothing alike and you're just selling me Netanyahu's propaganda. I'm not buying it.
I didn't say it was easy or even possible given the blood lust and refusal of leaders to try something different instead of repeating the same mistakes that haven't worked in the past. We're seeing that right now. It would take multiple nations, and leaders and willingness for the different parties in the region to see the benefits of autonomy/increased security/greater justice/improvement in foreign relations and trade/increased aid. From there a prolonged period of relative security, and autonomy for those there will make future agreements easier. The thing is that it won't be worse than what we are seeing in the region now, or for the past 90 years.
First of all, I think you are in denial about the similarities of Israel and TR and their fight against "terrorism", except that one group of people were subjected to genocide in the 20th century and the other committed genocide of hundreds of thousands of Armenians and Greek Christians. Do you acknowledge that history? And you are lying to yourself about what Erdogan's and TR's response would be if the same type of Oct. 7 massacre were to happen tomorrow in Turkiye. How in the world can you possibly claim Hamas is not an Islamic terrorist group like ISIS and Islamic Jihad? Look what they did to Gaza since 2006. It is the exact same brand of militant ISIS sharia law Turkiye claims to be fighting against.....Currently women are required to wear the hijab and are threatened or worse if they do not wear Islamic dress code. Currently, it is illegal in Gaza for women to dance. It is illegal for a woman to ride behind a man on the back of a motorcycle (like kidnapped Noa Argamani.) Women are not allowed to go to a male hairdresser or smoke a hookah in public. Internet cafes and music shops have been bombed and attacked. Many books have been banned, including Palestinian folk tales. Girls have been banned from participating in sports. Kids coed summer camps set up by the UN have been bombed and attacked. The largest waterpark was set on fire for allowing mixed-bathing. Boys have been beaten for wearing hair gel and having non-Islamic haircuts. Men are not allowed to swim without a shirt on. It is illegal to be gay which carries a 10 year prison sentence or worse, beatings a death. There is even a ban on public dog walking. Christian imagery is banned. A bookstore owner was murdered for selling Christian books. The handful of Christians that remained in Gaza were kidnapped, beaten and forced to convert to Islam. Sounds like ISIS' brand of Islamic militant terrorism. Even Egypt knows that Hamas & ISIS have been linked for the last decade. They have been actively partnering in the Sinai for the last 10 years at least. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4739234,00.html And, you, yourself are an admitted Zionist and yet again call Zionists "sub-humans". If you want to single out a particular leader or person you find disturbing that is fine, but Albert Einstein? Bob Marley? Anyone who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel, INCLUDING YOU are "sub-human". What?
