Cam Thomas vs. Jalen Green? Who is the best 2 guard from the 2021 NBA Draft

Defenses would rather play Cam than Jalen.

 

You genuinely believe that progression is linear lol. Who gives a s*it what their numbers were at 20? Oh he was averaging X ppg when he was 20, and Jalen is 20 and averaging 0.215252 points more soooo... logic is just st*pid and i noticed that it's your only argument lol. Not every basketballer is capable of overcoming their weaknesses. Time is not necessarily the answer for everything. That's a lie.

Btw i have never said Cam will be better than JG in this thread. I only said thay it's likely for Cam to develop into a better player, scorer than Jalen. He might just be a late bloomer and it's not an unrealistic scenario by any means. Both have weaknesses they are 20 and 21 but you are having trouble accepting that your boy has tons of weaknesses too and that's why you are being so defensive and think he has what it takes to be Shai while he hasn't showed it so far. Has he even had 3 efficient games in a row so far? Shai was pretty dam* efficient AT 20 YEARS OLD lol.

 

Lol

Both are still underdeveloped.

We talking 2029?

 

The fun thing is LaVine is not even an elite guard in my books.

He is a borderline to All Star reserve.

It does not matter. Lavine was shooting good percentages.

38.9% from 3 in his second season in 28 minutes per game.

Rookie Green got more minutes than that.

 

Shai and Green's ts% career percentage over their first two years is off by like 1.5% with Green having significantly higher volume so I'm sure if Shai scaled up and didn't have point god(CP3) next to him, his ts% would tank below Green's.

Who says Green doesn't have weaknesses? Why does having a weakness at 20-21 deny the chance of Green being at Shai's level when he's 24?

 

Ya. Hence Green has a much higher ceiling.

I'm sure having Rubio, Wiggins, Towns etc helped him get some space and offensive structure for some easy looks.

 

If you compare him to Lillard or Steph.

Zach got 4-5 WS Win Shares.

Lillard got 9-11 in a good season.

Steph is at 9 but his highest was around 16-17.

Best players are shooting PGs rather than facilitating combo guards.

 

Ya that's nice?

 

Zach is a shooter who outgrew his assignments to shoot.

Green has the room to grow more but I cannot see him outshooting Zach, that is the department I think Zach wins out, he is more of a refined specialist.

 

Green also takes a lot more bad threes than Zach at the same age. Green can still be a much superior player even without being a better shooter because he's much more crafty and capable of beating perimeter defenses and finishing/drawing contact.



Green is arguably already elite at driving to the paint and getting contact. That's very impressive for a sophomore who just turned 21 and more promising than a young player shooting consistently. It's easier to pick up consistent shooting over time with more reps than pick up the ability to drive and get contact. That trait has a lot more innate abilities at play like shiftiness and wiggle.

 

That is what I am getting at.

He is not the same player type, they are both kind of shooting guards but that is where the similarities end.

 

We agree on that. My main point is what Lavine is better at when he was a sophomore(consistent outside threat) is easier to pick up with reps than what Green is better at(beating perimeter defenses and attacking the rim, drawing contact) One ability has more innate traits to be good at said ability.

 

He can score from anywhere with high efficiency. His defense sucks but Jalen's defense sucks too so i'll go with more efficient player with smooth jumper.

 

True story, I accidentally drafted Cam Johnson instead of Cam Thomas...stupid me.

 

wow that’s solid production right there

 

I doubt Thomas continues to shoot 100% at the rim and 55% from mid-range for the rest of the year. 62.5% FGA while shooting 33.3% from 3.

Classic hot streak to start the year, but the fact that Thomas is even in the same league as Jalen is a dire indictment on the man drafted above Evan Mobley.

 

First of all Mobley is just lucky to play with 4 all stars, 2 of whom give him the ball at the best spots. Dude scores 90% of his buckets on layups and the shots he does take from range he is shooting like 25% from 3. Everyone rags on Jabari but I'd rather take a chance on him than Mobley at least Jabari was a shooter in college and preseason he just needs to get his mojo back.

Secondly Jalen was seen as either the 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the draft nobody would have taken Cam Thomas ahead of him at the time. Whether Thomas becomes better than Jalen remains to be seen but unless you had a crystal ball Jalen was def the right guard to pick in his draft class. To pretend otherwise is just dishonest.

 

I did not know about Thomas before but he is built like a mini van.

 

Yep, but that dude is unreal though.......I would not be surprised if he did shoot 49 or 50 at the rim.