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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    Good question. You and I, nor anybody in this thread have the knowledge to answer that question. I trust the servicememvers that have learned first hand from this type of combat.

    general Petraeus and numerous other commanders have come out and stated what they think.

    It’s in contrast to what the war criminal and hammas supporter Netanyahu has done, I posted a clip early on
     
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    They need to draw Charlie Hebro cartoons with rainbow colors too
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    Why is 2006 the arbitrary starting point of who gets blame for what? Are you saying Israeli can kill 2 million people in Gaza and it would be 100% Hamas' fault? What if they kill people in Iran too? What about if Israel kills the dumb protestors in NYC or the crazy college chapters that Florida is trying to-defund for supporting Hamas? Does Israel have a hall pass to kill anyone they want now because "Hamas"? Or there are there any limits in your mind?

    Japan started WW2 (in terms of US-Japan involvement). The US took actions it needed to end it and they were justified. The US is nevertheless responsible for Hiroshima. This isn't that complicated.
     
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    Didn’t Israel beat Syria , Jordan Lebanon and Egypt at the same time ?
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    You seem to not understand basic logic. How horrific Hamas' actions are have nothing to do with anything. The fact that Hamas attacked Israel is enough to justify Israel defending itself - fullstop. Posting that the Hamas baked someone in an oven doesn't change Israel's moral justification. It also doesn't change Israel's responsibility for its own actions. It just means Hamas is horrible, which we already knew. It also means you seem to think your argument relies on how horrible Hamas is, which is bizarre - as though you think a Israel would not be entitled to defend itself if Hamas was not baking people in ovens.
     
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    you had me until the last sentence. I'm no particular fan of Bibi, but you betrayed your hand.

    Cheers.
     
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    2006 is when Hamas took control of Gaza. it's not arbitrary.

    the rest of the first paragraph is ad hominem hypotheticals.

    the second paragraph proves my point.
     
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    in 1967 and 1973.
     
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    this is my point.

    welcome to the side of light.
     
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  13. LosPollosHermanos

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    Let me clarify, im not looking for your approval.

    and Yes, it was a hyperbole to illustrate a point in rhetoric that folks are using, it’s not black and white. But you don’t think Bibi propped up hammas for years and financially supported them? Israel has published a lot of damning evidence…

    then turn around and he magically ignored repeated warnings about the attack? Come on now, you’re betraying your hand now.

     
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    ignoring warnings is not the same as baking babies in an oven.
     
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    I have to conclude that you are mentally deficient. I have told you numerous times and in very clear and concise terms that I do not support Hamas and that it is a terrorist organization.
     
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    You see why that rhetoric doesn’t work now? (And it’s not just ignoring warnings it’s quite literally…funding them)

    See @Nook post above. You labeling people with that view point is actually more absurd than the above since there is objective evidence of Bibi supporting them. There’s actually a lot more to say that the man that gave them millions of dollars to undermine a 2 state solution supports their terrorist organization, than people wanting to mitigate civilian deaths and voicing their opinions

    again, to summarize I just illustrated a more concrete example of your own rhetoric against you and it sounds absurd and “it’s not the same as”. Therefore using such rhetoric I have to say is deliberate and disingenuous if continued on your part
     
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    This is 100% accurate the people of Gaza are supporters of Hamas.

    DD
     
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    Of course not

    that’s like fat people protesting French fries
     
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    @J.R. , Robocop (original) and I are very center

    Vernon Maxwell and Kenny Smith would pass us the ball

    that’s how center we are

    all y’all Lin fans are Dick Jones
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