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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. tallanvor

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    Its not about isreal. They just hate jews.
     
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    Time to take another doom scroll break for events I have no impact on.
     
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    They conflate Jews with Israel. But yes, they hate Jews.
    Hating Jews has been a mainstay of Wahhabi/Salafi teachings since the House of Saud took over.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_propagation_of_Salafism_and_Wahhabism

    According to one source (Olivier Roy), the fusion/joint venture/hybridisation of the two Sunni movements (Salafiyya movement and Sunni Islamism) helped isolate Islamist Shia Islamic Republic of Iran, and move Islamism more towards fundamentalism or "neofundamentalism", where opposition to the West is "expressed in religious terms", i.e. "criticism of Christianity" and "marked anti-Semitism".[143] In Afghanistan for example, the Salafis circulated an anti-Shiite pamphlet titled Tuhfa-i ithna ashariyya (The gift of the twelver Shia) republished in Turkey in 1988 and widely distributed in Peshwar.[144] In turn, articles and stories of how Salafism allegedly is "a creation of British imperialism" circulate in some Iranian circles.
     
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    war is hell.
     
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    Israel left Hamas in control in Gaza in 2006. if Hamas didn't rape, mutilate, murder, and massacre 1400 Israelis (and others) on October 7, 2023, Israel would still be leaving Hamas, and Gaza, alone (except for providing food, fuel, and water).

    this is on Hamas.

    /fullstop
     
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    a) we don't really know how they're going about it. We probably won't for a while.
    b) how would you go about achieving this goal?
     
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    The Best Analogy I can think up to tie this into WWI:
    China is the German Empire. Upstart economy, making the current hegemon nervous, and wants a real place at the table.
    Iran is Austria-Hungary. Bark is bigger than bite, insignificant, but a pain in the ass.
    Russia is the Ottoman Empire. Holdover empire that is rotten to the core.

    US is UK/US. Global hegemon and the world leader. When the US gets involved conflicts go global.
    Israel is Serbia. New country on the block, will fight.
    UK is US/UK. France is still France. But so is Germany. and Poland. All of the EU+NATO is France. Can't explain beyond it feels like it works.
    Ukraine is now Russia, economically underdeveloped but has the will to fight and with modern arms will not fall. Also scares the Russians, like the Russians scared the Ottomans.

    India is still India.
    Turkey is Italy.
    Japan is still Japan.

    Ok. Enough. Time to watch Rockets play the Warriors.
     
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    the Germans defeated the Russians in WW1.
     
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    If China started to provide arms to Russia, Russia would probably defeat Ukraine too.
    Maybe history just rhymes and this is a mix mash of belligerents that can't really be compared.

    This is your fault for having me read Peace to End all Peace. I've been binging WWI history.
     
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    I need to re-read that book with current events in mind.
     
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    I don't think they are anti-Israel as much as they are anti war.

    DD
     
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    I guess the thousands of Jews protesting here in the US are antisemites… someone go tell them.

    I think the better rhetoric is is that supporters of bibi (who has been hammas biggest supporter) are also hammas supporters. It sounds ridiculous still of course
     
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    The worst part about the D&D in recent years is the spamming of tweets. I don’t care what some random idiot thinks. Most of the time, I don’t even care about what idiots in the news think but some dude that probably just got jacking off smears the same keyboard with tweet/twat nonsense as some sort of legitimat view point.

    social media is truly a plague tbh
     
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  20. basso

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    they're anti-jew.
     
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