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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

  1. Plowman

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    Far from it. I have a geopolitical view, with all considerations..also, societal, along with the humanist view. We've run these scenarios countless times on mainframes, dating back. What we haven't taken into consideration is a "president" riding in on a coup at the same time...giving it all away. Talk about propaganda...doubling down, quadrupling down, etc, etc, etc....Many of us have relatives, who have fought for our freedom rolling over in their graves.
     
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    You know, we used to scan newspapers, quickly spotting cover stories and their intention...some thiings never change. This is part of what I did for a living.
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    The working class MAGA is different than the evangelical MAGA. One doesn’t care about Gays or Abortion and the other hates Gays and Abortion. But both distrust non-White foreigners and love Americana. But the evangelicals love Israel because it’s a pre-requisite for the rapture and the working class MAGA don’t love Israel so much as they just hate Arabs and Muslims because of 9/11.
    Working class MAGA is less likely to think the holocaust is real or that we landed on the moon. Evangelical MAGA thinks the Earth is 6000 years old and dinosaurs are a liberal lie.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It says something that people put up posters of children being held hostage half way around the world but not of children missing here in the US. We care more about kids that we can't do anything about than kids we can help here at home - and guess what - there are missing Jewish kids here. Why not put flyers of them up - at least it's more productive. Oh that's right, it wouldn't be political!

    That's a travesty.
     
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  6. Ubiquitin

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    Only Siths deal in absolutes



    this pro Israel Twitter account is wild.
     
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    Only to people that haven't actually followed the events as anything other than a way to weaponize the events to attack other groups.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...officials said,, Germany, France and Portugal.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us-sa...19 (Reuters),heading toward targets in Israel.

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-h...the attacks,Ford in the Eastern Mediterranean.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-new...rsian-gulf-amid-israel-hamas-war-196175429892

    Seriously. It's right there. Everything I mentioned.

    US working with allies and successfully getting hostages released as a result.

    US striking down missle and drone attacks from the US naval vessels.

    And the US moving a second naval carrier group to the area.

    I know the actual events are hard to follow when you are so busy chasing Brooklyn Annie because she removed some posters from neighborhood telephone polls, but man, you were as wrong as wrong can be on your post.
     
  8. Ubiquitin

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    It’s to drum up domestic support for Israel’s response. In a vacuum, the destruction in Gaza is just as abhorrent as Aleppo and Bakhmut.

    But if you frame it as look our beautiful daughters and sisters who were brutally raped and beaten by these low intelligence Palestinian brutes who need to be punished, then you can get a western cart blanche to punish all of Gaza and to raze Gaza city.

    Is it justice? Absolutely not. Is it a strategic decision? Absolutely.
     
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    I still think Trudeau could’ve gotten the hostages back if he actually threatened to add H to LGBTQ Acronym.
     
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    There is a deliberate uptick in pro-Israel propaganda because the IDF response to a crime against humanity is another crime against humanity. But those crimes are possible because we in the west empower them.
     
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    Must have been good friends with this guy

     
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    This is an ignorant question but what happens to all this rubble in Gaza? Can it be salvaged and reused?

     
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    I think old concrete normally gets crushed and is basically used as gravel/filler. You can mix it in with cement to make new concrete, or use it as fill.

    Maybe you can do other things with it, but I think economically it doesn't make a ton of sense.
     
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    Concrete can be recycled but it's not a simple process. Basically has to be ground up. Not sure if that's doable in a place like Gaza.
     
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    London:



    Berlin:





    I did not want to live there anymore.

    These people are dumb, hateful, and there will be more terror attacks in Europe soon. Basically, Europe has invited the same ignorant hate and terror Israel has been having to deal with for decades.
     
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    Dump it in the Med, artificial reefs are great.

    The UN has been heavily involved in previous cleanup efforts, this will be a huge one.

    https://www.undp.org/papp/news/japan-contributes-us3-million-removal-rubble-gaza
     
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    wonderful isn't?
    Palestine will be Free from the River to the Sea
    North Korea accuses Israel of 'genocide' in Gaza, labels US an 'accomplice', no where for you to go right?poor thing
     
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    people put up posters of missing kids all the time.
     

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