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Jabari Smith Jr.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by austinite, Apr 25, 2023.

  1. robbie380

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    I tend to agree with this.
     
  2. Snow Villiers

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    Everyone is destroying Jabari right now (me included) but maybe see if they can get him going from the midrange or something. That always seems to work for him.
     
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    Jabari is a 3 & D guy who is not particularly good at either one right now. I knew what we saw in summer league would not carry over to the regular season. He is young and I hope he will improve. If not he should go to the bench for Tari.
     
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    I won’t destroy the kid. I still have faith he’s going to be able to turn it around.
    I’m not sure he’s a number 1 on a team though.
    Don’t think we have that, I think Alp is a good Robin to someone’s Batman.
     
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    We need Jabari to have a good game so Clutch will tweet again!
     
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    Jabari's greatest strength at the moment is that he has the mental fortitude to overcome all of his weaknesses in the game, even if those weaknesses are long-lasting.
     
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    People overrate Summer League and Preseason......I think that got to Bari.....he thought that was a big deal.

    Other teams do not care about that stuff.
     
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    Jabari “Tony Snell” Smith

    Jabari “Kwame’s relative” Smith
     
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    First play of overtime he dribbled straight into Wembenyama and hoisted up a moronic mid range jumper that had no chance, mere moments after totally choking the game at the free throw line.

    He’s just a bad player. Let’s accept this and stop trying to rationalize his play.
     
  10. cml750

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    He is young and may improve but he was bad last year and not looking good so far this year. lol at anyone who thought summer league Jabari meant anything. He was supposed to be a 3 & D player but up to this point he has not displayed much in either category. I still struggle to see how anyone had him as the top pick last year. At least Stone struck gold with Sengun and Tari.
     
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    My big fear when the paolo, jabari, chet debates were going on was that we'd get stuck with Jabari.

    While i liked the idea of jabari i thought he was the biggest risk of those three from a talent perspective.

    Chet has a lot of skills he can fall back on to affect a game. So does Paolo. They can have off shooting nights and still be a big contributor to winning.

    Jabari really only had two skills coming out. That was defense and shooting. And both of those skills are maybe the toughest to translate to the next level as far as being an impact player.

    Jabari couldnt handle the ball, he wasnt a good passer, he wasnt good at finishing around the rim, he wasnt great defending around the rim and he wasnt a very good rebounder. And then on top of that he played like ass when the lights got brighter.

    The pathway for success is still there but he needs to focus on becoming a lights out shooter and hit the weight room religiously.
     
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    He’s really good in summer league games!
    Trevor Ariza was pretty good when he wouldn’t try to do too much.
     
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    He does have length, let’s give him that. It just happens that he played against extreme length yesterday, and ORL is pretty long too.
    Let’s see GSW. If he draws Wiggins, who’s generally a good defender, but is not that long, he may light it up. Let’s see.
     
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    Yesterday was a disaster, he was literally pushed around. Trusting on my coach, if he believes Jabari should be in, we are still early enough on his tenure to believe there is something workable there.
     
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    Now is he a good 3pt shooter or not i don't get it. He was good in college but dogs.t in NBA so what is it? Can you have a good 3pt shooting season and actually be a bang average 3pt shooter? I guess you can be and if so why are we acting like he's a good 3pt shooter?
     
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    Yeah its weird he was an excellent 3 point shooter in college.
     
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    It is a mental thing with him. He may or may not overcome it. If he does not get better soon then a trip to the G-league where he can shine like he did in summer league being "the man" may be a good thing for him to help build his confidence.
     
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    It is mental. He has a big ego, he was good in college. He thought he would be good, not only good but one of the best, he would be a leader because he was a top pick. But it is a new level, and he has to compete with the best, and he fell into a terrible atmosphere, draft position doesn't matter once the draft is over. He did not really develop much. He wants it to happen quickly, but it won't happen right away.

    The summer league did not help. He thought it finally happened and he was not ready to face that it hasn't.

    It is a lot of work and it is going to be slow. Last year was a joke with Silas and KPJ as head honcho. They got the wrong message, no proper training and they thought things will come by easily. But that is far from truth. He needs to accept what it is and work his ass off. He is not that far behind, just missed one year.

    Same for Green. They feel the pressure to be worthy of their draft positions and they both taught they would superstars. It is a huge mental pressure on them and very hard to accept that they had a bad start. Green's defense is pretty bad and he has not developed in offense much.

    Both still have great potential but they both need a change of mentality. Ime, FVV, Brooks provide the right atmosphere for that and i think it could happen.
     
  19. JayGoogle

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    1000% mental.

    Like I said in another thread, they went into last year with 0 expectations. It was okay to lose games, as Green said in a different way, losing is learning, there was no pressure on them. Their season was decided 10 games in that they'd be a top 5 bottom team so any wins they got were a bonus.

    In comes the new boss. The new boss wants no business with that, he wants to win and he likely has a goal for the team, maybe thats play-ins or maybe it is a specific number like 35 wins. Whatever it is, he has a goal, he's created pressure. Bari missing those FTs and Green's first game, that's pressure.

    You went from doing a practice test to the SAT and the now the clock is ticking, every action you do matters, is judged and rated. It's hard, these guys are still kids that would normally still be in college and now we're asking them to contribute to have a meaningful season.

    I agree that Bari has an ego, all the best players do, so that's fine, and he's getting humbled right now. That's also fine. I always say it is more about how you react to failures, not the failures themselves. Guys miss FTs, big shots, all the time. There's a famous Jordan quote about it even.

    I think he built up his confidence in summer league because he's so much better than the guys there. It was good work for him too, we got to see his bag and his go to moves and see him having success with them. He then continued to shoot well in preseason. He's now missing these same shots.

    Good sign, they are not big misses, he's not clanking it off the side of the rim every time. Most of these are in and out balls meaning its likely just a mental thing. He's wound up. You can tell by his reaction to this loss that he's wound up. Just needs to relax and let the game come to him, which is funnily what Sengun told him.

    It reminds me of Sengun where at first a lot of his misses are not bad misses, ball goes in and out, he'd make a nice move, nice shot, ball goes in and out. Now he usually makes these shots. He's relaxed and confident in his game. I think the players that come over from Euroleague are a lot more mentally prepared for the NBA because they've already played games with real stakes.

    NCAA college basketball games do have some stakes, but the reality is like 95% of the players in NCAA (if not less) will not be pro basketball players. So top prospects like Green or Banchero or whoever just run through them with ease and NCAA is more used for them as a way to build their draft resume.

    Euroleague asks these young players to carry their clubs to victory and they are often playing with grown men. I think this is why Sengun (and honestly other Euro players) play more like vets when they come here even if they come at like 20 or 21, they've already played in big games, already have played with grown men, they just have to get used to the NBA speed.
     
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    He has a very awkward game. Almost seems athletic and stiff at the same time. Too skinny, even after he supposedly bulked up. Even his game winners last year seemed to be prayers and not good shots. All that said, I hope he sticks as without him we will be even more small ball. Stone screwed up and has no experience at building a quality roster.
     

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