You know a good old time hater when they complain about sengun's defense when he is visibly much improved compared to last year after a game he had the best defensive rating in the team: https://www.nba.com/game/hou-vs-orl-0022300066/box-score?type=advanced He is 10 pts lower than the next best one. And also second on offensive rating after FVV. The only player with a reasonable +/-. If his defense is bad, he really should have some magical powers to stop the other team from scoring. Or to make his teammates play better d only when they are on the court with him.
I'm not saying that we should build around him but you can't accurately tell whether he's cornerstone or not when he's surrounded with utter crap. He'd be worshipped here today if Amen and Green hadn't dropped their pants and shat on the floor yesterday but instead ppl have now second thoughts about him and it's not even entirely his fault. You can't just remove someone from the equation and evaluate his worth in a vacuum. This is idealism and a terrible way to interpret the world and its elements. Everything in life is connected to each other and that applies to the basketball. Sure he has shortcomings but if that's only glaring in certain situations are they really shortcomings? We can't build a perfect environment for everyone they should be able to fight their way out of the darkness they are in but they should also help each other. On this team certain players are looking out for others while also fighting their way out of sh*t while others are just defecating on them while doing nothing else.
Nope, you don't understand what i'm saying. I already told you it's not his fault that he gets the ball at the top of the key instead of getting it on the low post, and it's not his fault that Jalen and Jabari are nowhere near as good as him. Blaming Sengun for their sh*tty games is hilarious. If anything, Jalen and Jabari harm Sengun's game since they brick everything behind the arc. Opponent teams just lock down the paint and focus on slowing down Sengun. Even under these circumstances, Sengun is by far the best player on the team. Imagine how much better he'd look if he actually had NBA players around him with decent IQ and shooting skills.
I think it is very good that he is getting the ball at the top of the key. He needs to add dimension to his game. He is trying to attack the rim from there, shoot, or make something else happen. They should have done him do those things in the past two years, when we did not care about winning but that ship has already sailed. He absolutely deserves to go into some uncharted territory and explore and see what he can add to his game. And not only he deserves it, he also needs it. And as far as I saw from the highlights, he got a decent amount of post touches as well. So it didn't seem to me as if one replaced the other. Building around Sengun is really finding the ideal role for him, and developing the relevant skills, not constructing a whole roster around him imo. I think it is more or less doable with this group players. I am hoping that is what ime is doing. He definitely seems to have a central role on offense and trying out new things. He is a well known hater, his Sengun review included a paragraph about how horrible SOFs are and blatantly lying about existence of posters who think Sengun is as good as Jokic, blaming Sengun with best defensive rating and a +/- of -2 in a game lost by 30. A very well-deserved place on my ignore list of haters/idiots. He obviously has no interest in discussing Sengun or basketball.
It is hilarious, except that's not what I'm doing. Topic of the thread is running the offense through Sengun, so that's what I'm talking about. "Not his fault" he gets the ball at the top of the key? I mean he stands there and raises his hand. I don't know that "fault" is the right word here but it's pretty much definitely what's going to happen when you park it at the helm and call for the ball 9/10 possessions. It IS his fault that he refuses to shoot 3s or roll to the basket with intention. He slaughters spacing. That is on him. There's no one else to blame.
I don't know if you are being serious or trolling but he gets the ball at the top of the key because that's what coaching staff wants him to do. I thought it's blatantly obvious and i genuinely can't believe we're having this conversation right now. I'd rather him hesitate, and not take the shots he's not going to make. If Jalen and Jabari had half the self-awareness Sengun has, the Rockets would have been a relevant team.
This is just not true. The Rockets went out and invested $100m in all- defense team players in Brooks and Vanvleet to put around Sengun - and he's still the same liability. T Relentlessly targeted on high screens Forced into ineffective drop coverage Frequently out hustled on boxouts He's a big who can't guard bigs, smalls or shoot from outside - that's a crippling combination and way closer to Can't Play Kanter than Nikola Jokic. Like i said, he was clearly the only effective offensive creator last night so good for him. But the trade-offs, oh my, the trade offs
Udoka also said he needs to shoot threes, yes? You have nothing but unyielding affection for Sengun, it's cool, but what you're saying makes zero sense and all you have to back it up is shidding on two other players when the topic is Sengun. You've got nothing and the hesitation statement proves it. You'd rather him be a hesitant 27% shooter? lol... ok.
You realize that the team played Orlando evenly with Sengun in the game, none of what you are saying happened. They lost because Amen looked like he didn’t know how to play basketball and was a -34 in 20 minutes.
Nope, I want him to play to his strengths in actual games and work on his weaknesses in the summer. If he averages 4 3 points attempts per game, he's not magically going to be a better 3-point shooter. You get that stuff done in the summer.
As posted before (but ignored by you, of course), the data says that he had the best defensive rating and best net rating by a very wide margin compared to all other Rockets in that game: https://www.nba.com/game/hou-vs-orl-0022300066/box-score?type=advanced The only other player that comes close is, unsurprisingly, Fred van Vleet. These two (and Tari, when healthy) are the best Rockets, both offensively and defensively. Any chance that your eye test is influenced by a pre-conceived bias?
Again, the data from that game doesn't support this. Check the pace column (second column from the right). Tate and Amen played "at a higher pace", with pretty disastrous results (look at net rating). FVV actually played at a slower pace, the other starters pretty much at the same pace as Alpi.
I don't care what metrics you use. When Sengun has good scoring games we normally lose bad. This is going back to last year
How is he the "same liability" while he looks better than Jabari on defense in this season so far while Jabari was better than him on defense last season? If x=4 and y=5 in 2022 and in 2023 x becomes 6 and y stays at 5, you subtract 4 from 6 and find 2 and that's improvement. That's active hands, staying vertical, recovering after getting beat, not reaching all time time, not being as jumpy as before but same means no improvement, 0. See that's how you tell if one's making progress or not. You don't remove him from an equation put him in a vacuum. I'm just looking at them both and can easily observe the progress meanwhile you are in a vacuum with Sengun and there's nobody around to compare him with so you can't tell if he's improving or not. You are in a vacuum a place entirely devoid of matter and you can't breath since there's no oxygen your brain doesn't function as it should so while you are slowly suffocating. Obviously he has weaknesses, weaknesses that will be less glaring when he gets thicker. It takes a while European bigs to learn every aspect of defense.
