Really how effective is he on the offensive end of the court when one in 5 possessions ends in a turnover (18.9%). which is about the same figure that results in an assist (21%) leaving 3 in 5 possessions where he takes a shot hitting .552 or FT's at a below league average clip of 71%. Most really good big men are highly efficient, that's not Sengun. Sengun is fun to watch as he makes plays as a passer that few are capable of, but he also forces a lot of shots and other action that leads to negative outcomes - missed shots / turnovers. Advanced statistics have shown him to be a net zero so far .... 0.96 win shares / 48 (league average is 1.0) and 0.4 in BPM. Not that either stat is the be all end all, just comparative to league average. The defense is much improved in the preseason and less a concern going forward but I need to see a highly efficient player offensively if we're discussing him as the hub of the offense.
Last year he was .115 win shares and 1.4 in BPM. Highest on the rockets for players that played significant minutes
Are all of these stats from last year or preseason? I dunno how win share stats works, but we were a really bad team that didn’t win many games. Doesn’t that drag everyone “win shares” down? Is it really a useful stat when you have so limited of wins? Surprised to see the TO rate — outside of this preseason he always seemed to get rid of it before he was doubled, problem was we couldn’t shoot for crap last season. If the numbers are preseason only then yah, I’m surprised they’re not worse. He’s played really bad. I think he’s just in an awkward funk as he focuses more on defense and learning the new offense plus high expectations. He definitely hasn’t been sharp on the offensive end but it’s preseason. Let’s see how he starts the season.
Here is a link of centers 24 or younger with comparable usage to Sengun. https://www.nba.com/stats/players/a...erPosition=C&Season=2022-23&dir=A&sort=TS_PCT In true shooting %, first is Luka Garza with a small sample size and 4 fga per game. Second is Wandell Carter Jr. at 62.1% compared to Sengun's 59.9%. Sengun is at least 3 years younger than all the guys above him. Sengun is very good for his age, and good regardless of age. Win shares is an additive stat whose sum corresponds to team total win. On a 22 win team, no player will get a lot of winshares and comparing it to league average is totally meaningless. Yet he lead the team in total win shares and WS/48. Sengun is at .115 compared to next best starter KPJ at .68. https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2023.html Correction: He forced a lot of shots in preseason. He should cut down the turnovers, that I agree with.
LOL yes, either they are totally made up or he just looked at them wrong. I have a paid Stathead subscription, @Corrosion, let me know if you want to find out anything.
So Sengun's turnover % last season was 17.3 %, slightly higher than Sabonis and Jokic in their second season, who were at 15.2 % and 15.3 %, and Embiid who was at 15.6 %. His assist % was at 21 %, lower than Jokic in his second season at 28.8 %, but higher than Sabonis (12.7 %) and Embiid (18%) in their respective second seasons. All of those guys were also older than Sengun in their second season, and didn't have to play with KPJ, Nix, Garry Bird, etc. His usage percentage was the lowest of all four centers in their respective second seasons, and yet, his assist percentage was clearly higher than that of Embiid and Sabonis. If you were to compare him to Sabonis and Jokic at the same age (20) instead of the respective second season, he comes out ahead of them in most individual categories (except turnover percentage - surely one area to work on, as are the free throws).
Last year, Sengun's turnover percentage was virtually identical to that of Jokic and Sabonis (17.3 % vs. 16.9 % vs. 17 %).
This is Basketball Reference's projection for Alpi this upcoming season: Not horrible numbers for a 21 year old, but I hope he can do better, especially on 3P%, FT%, TOV, PF, WS/48!
It is true. You can read the definition. It won't add to exactly 22 because it is trying to get the total number of wins as a function of player stats. But it will be in the ball park. A 22 win team will never have player win shares adding to 30, in which case the stat would fail its goal. Here is the first paragraph from its explanation: I. Introduction Win Shares is a player statistic which attempts to divvy up credit for team success to the individuals on the team. Full details are available below, but the important things to note are that it is calculated using player, team and league-wide statistics and the sum of player win shares on a given team will be roughly equal to that team’s win total for the season.
well yes, but I noticed they are per 36, and since he will likely play less (more like 30-32, is my guess), his actual numbers would be lower...closer to last year's
Let me try to help. Alpi will never be a franchise player - will be a good complimentary player and maybe an all star one day - but never a super star. DD
No wonder you can't see the potential in Sengun, seeing potential in players like Wood&KPj. Of course the chances that he will become franchise player or superstar are slim, which is true for any player but he definitely has some chance.
