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The state of the republican party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Amazingly void of self respect...

     
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  2. NewRoxFan

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    LOL... can it get worse for the maga republicans? I am betting the over on worse.

     
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  4. MadMax

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    There isn’t a Republican Party anymore. There are 2 or 3 separate parties that all identify as Republican, but are as divided internally as they are externally. I hope that changes because the Republic needs them to get their **** together.
     
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  5. DatRocketFan

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    They perfected the art of sabotaging the ones in power that now they are in a position of power, they can only do it to themselves.

    Congress has been doing jack sht for almost 3 weeks.

    Financial aid loan services are getting overwhelmed, palestine-israel, Ukraine and instead of addressing any of it, these assholes are still trying to figure out who should be the speaker.
     
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  6. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    How does that make it not an entitlement?
    Entitlement Spending (federalsafetynet.com)
    Good. Hopefully they continue to do nothing in perpetuity.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Social security and Medicade should be paid into by every American and we should do Medicade for all - so that we can get rid of the greedy Insurance industry that is choking proper healthcare.

    DD
     
  8. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

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    Because we paid for it. Is your car insurance an entitlement? You're "entitled" to coverage after you pay your premiums.

    Anytime someone wants to minimize the importance of Social Security they call it an entitlement program. One party in particular, always calls it an entitlement program. When they call it an entitlement program they are falsely spreading the idea that Americans are entitled to benefits just because they were born in the country. No one is just given Social Security benefits, the benefits are earned through work.

    The definitions of entitlement focus on “having a right to something.” Someone who has not worked and paid into Social Security has no right to benefits so how can it be considered an entitlement program?

    Minimizing the work Americans have put in over decades to be eligible for Social Security benefits is just plain wrong. Social Security is no more an entitlement than vacation time form an employer or funds in a 401K, you have to work to be “entitled” to these benefits. People who work and pay taxes into Social Security to be eligible for these benefits.

    I know you get off on arguing semantics so please carry on.
     
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  9. No Worries

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    As long as Social Security does not think it is an entitlement, it is not.
     
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    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/10/19/jim-jordan-defeat-insurrectionist-00122571
    Don’t Overthink Jim Jordan’s Failure
    The Republican Party came far too close to installing an insurrectionist as speaker.

    In the classic film “Modern Times,” Charlie Chaplin tried to impress a woman by roller-skating while blindfolded. Again and again, the unwitting Chaplain skates perilously close to a cavernous hole. Only by happenstance does he avoid a fatal plunge.

    Keep this image in mind if you’re tempted to send up a cheer or a sigh of relief that Jim Jordan has — for now — been denied the speakership of the House. If it’s a cause for celebration, it should be decidedly muted, because it’s another example of just how close America has repeatedly come to an all-out political catastrophe. It’s also a reminder that the more close calls there are, the more likely it is that at some point, the worst will indeed happen.

    What we have witnessed over the past few days is less the triumph of a sensible, centrist-conservative, institutionally loyal contingent of House members, and more the unsettling fact that 200 lawmakers were willing to place outsize power in the hands of an insurrectionist who, as Liz Cheney noted, was closer to Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election than any other House member. Yes, the “squishes” held firm, and kudos to them for defying the worst of their reputations. But what should have been a blatantly disqualifying record was largely treated as either irrelevant, or a mark of loyalty to the dominant figure in the Republican Party.

    But perhaps we should not be surprised; that near-willingness to install Jordan two heartbeats from the Oval Office is just the latest example of a perilously close call that would have put our political system in serious jeopardy.

    In 2020, a shift of 44,000 votes in three states would have resulted in an electoral tie, throwing the presidential race into the House of Representatives, where the arcane rules would have very likely led to a Trump reelection despite his clear popular vote loss.

    On Jan. 6, a majority of House Republicans voted against certifying President Joe Biden’s election win. And within a few days or weeks, the base of the GOP — and a thumping majority of its elected officials — had come to terms with Trump’s efforts to overturn the election and remain in power by whatever means might work. But for the courage of local GOP officials in state legislatures and agencies, that effort might well have succeeded.

    The 2022 midterms did not produce a red wave and some of the more zealous election deniers — Kari Lake in Arizona, Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania — were defeated. But hundreds of election deniers won or were returned to seats in state legislatures and the U.S. House. Just as significant, Trump loyalists have won posts on canvassing boards, as election registrars, as county officials with significant power to judge the validity of votes. While new federal legislation makes it harder for Congress to reject certified electoral votes, the picture back at the grassroots is different: The potential for suppressing or rejecting valid votes may now be greater than it was in 2020.

    All of this takes place in a political universe that would have seemed beyond belief little more than a decade ago. A presidential candidate indicted for multiple felonies, and found liable for sexual abuse and of having defrauded banks and insurers, would not be the overwhelming favorite to win his party’s nomination, let alone having an even or better chance of winning the White House, if current polls can be believed.

    A major political party would not have embraced funhouse fantasies of electoral fraud, or joined in efforts to harass local prosecutors for pursuing credible criminal and civil cases. Nor would it have come this close to choosing a speaker of the House who willingly put our core political premise — the willingness to accept a peaceful transfer of power — at risk.

    If Jordan isn’t ultimately able to seize power, another Trumpist is still likely to be handed the speaker’s gavel whenever this embarrassing chaos comes to an end. A new push to empower Rep. Patrick McHenry as acting speaker has already run aground amid a conservative backlash. Anything resembling bipartisan governance or deal-making with Democrats would not do.

    Charlie Chaplin was never in any real danger —it was a triumph of special effects. The abyss we have repeatedly come close to is no illusion at all. And we cannot keep nearing that abyss without the real risk that sooner or later, we will slip over the edge.​
     
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  11. NewRoxFan

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    Just when you think maga republicans can't get any lower...

     
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  12. NewRoxFan

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    Petty and pathetic... only hurting America...

     
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  13. NewRoxFan

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    LOL, shedding a tear for the ultimate victim...

     
  14. Reeko

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    Am I the only one who’s been getting inundated with PragerU ads on YouTube the past couple months? It’s honestly starting to get ridiculous

    I do not look up or consume PragerU or right wing media, yet I keep getting these ads…I can be watching anything from true crime to comedy, and I’ll get one of these bullsh*t ads…the problem is that I listen to YouTube while in the shower, so I often can’t skip the bullsh*t and have to listen to the whole thing which is unbearable

    every time I hear one come on I’m like

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. Andre0087

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    Man this is ridiculous that they're forcing people to watch ads now. I use the tampermoney extension in Chrome and it's a good way to not see any of them since Youtube detects uBlock.
     
  16. Reeko

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    I always skip them, but if I’m listening to something while in the shower, I often can’t and then have to listen to a whole 2-3, sometimes even 4, minute PragerU bullsh*t ad talking about DEI, climate change hoax, “I used to be a left wing activist until blah blah blah” etc

    I’d maybe understand if I was watching a bunch of political videos or consuming right wing media in general, but I’m not…I wouldn’t want to be listening to a bunch of 2-3 minute left wing ads either, but it’s always PragerU
     
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    Sometimes I get these ads that are a preacher giving a sermon for an hour. No idea why I'm targeted.
     
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  18. Reeko

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    this is the thing that gets me

    What did I do to become part of some PragerU ad algorithm? I can literally be watching a dog video and get a PragerU ad
     
  19. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    The algorithm knows the truth.

    [​IMG]

    (meanwhile, I am getting ads about retirement. Sweet!)
     
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  20. NewRoxFan

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    You'd think trump would know his fellow authoritarian despots better...

     

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