You can tell when it's intentional, the ball doesn't "tail away" into the body of the player. It's all ridiculous.
The suspension will be reduced to 1 game or it will be deemed to be applied to the start of next season. No way no how is MLB going to take away an elite relief pitcher for 2 games from one of the 4 teams remaining that still stand a legit chance to win it all. It's not happening.
To the Astros? Of course it could happen. But not until the Phillies series. MLB wants that rematch, but they want the East coast team to win. That’s why it is two games instead of one in the first place. Appealing it plays right into their hands.
I understand the consensus here, but I don't see ANYTHING wrong with what Garcia did. I mean if you can't show out in big stages like this then that's kind of lame. I'm glad we found a way to rile them up for the worse though, don't get me wrong. Sports is alot of that anyways, finding ways to get underneath your opponents skin and so forth.
I honestly don't know if it was on purpose or not, but there is zero percent chance that MLB can know for sure either. Ejection is a miscarriage of justice in an such an important game. Suspension is doubling down. Without absolutely irrefutable evidence, MLB can't penalize a player or team in a post season series. This is just another example of MLB treating the Astros unfairly. Of course, maybe the Astros were counting on that.
Maybe I missed what you're talking about but I'm talking about when he showed out after he hit the homer when we threw the bat down.
Maybe I missed what you're talking about but I'm talking about when he showed out after he hit the homer, when he threw the bat down.
NM, you addressed it, but you either A) missed the entire point of the outrage or B) didn't watch the game, and have no idea what's going on.
Smh I though he got pissed because he felt he got hit for showing out on the HR? Again maybe I'm missing something here. Sorry about the double post above, the dern edit button wasn't working.
Yes, Garcia felt that way. But our outrage has nothing to do with that. Nobody cares about him pimping the HR, and nobody really cares if he felt like he was hit on purpose. It has everything to do with the fact that our best relief pitcher is facing a two game suspension because Garcia acted like a buffoon and escalated a situation that only existed in his head. If he had simply shut his mouth, and taken his base, none of this would have happened.
Ok, this actually clarifies things a bit better. So yeah, I can see then why it's upsetting for us. Unfortunate about the suspension.
Gurriel comments came in game 3 of the 17 WS. They handed down a 5 game suspension before the start of game 4 and deferred it to the start of 2018.
Except the suspension didn't happen until hours after the thread. Perhaps the threat of suspension has some posters pretending there was no intent.
I just don't see how this can be intentional. We brought our high leverage reliever in the 8th to try to keep the score within striking distance and then have him plunk Garcia to "send a message", but in the process, move a runner into scoring position, with no outs?!? Now a soft ground ball to the right side and a fly ball score a run, or a blooper, or any other bad luck scenario, regardless how good Abreu is. No way it was intentional if the Astros were actually trying to win the game, which they obviously were. It's the f'ing ALCS, not spring training. Tossing Abreu was outrageous, but having him suspended, for two games no less, is unbelievable. This is a huge blow to our team and MLB should be ashamed for this ridiculous decision.
I’m of the old school mind but I personally don’t like a player celebrating like that on the field. It’s fine to get back into your dugout and celebrate with your teammates but you should have enough respect for the pitcher not to gloat in his face, especially someone as accomplished as Verlander. Baseball isn’t like a lot of other sports in this regard but I always appreciated the higher level of respect the players showed one another. Garcia’s celebration was beyond anything I’ve seen the Astros do.
Alvarez know something about being intentionally hit by pitches. I suspect he's saying we're not that stupid. It was an up and in that got away.
Like it or not, it wasn't retaliation for the celebration. It's part of the game now. The umpires got the focus off their incompetent calls at the plate.
