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Jim Jordan must be elected speaker

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Oct 17, 2023.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    More death threats... and his landlord evicted him...


     
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  2. NewRoxFan

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    More death threats...

     
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    They're just discovering their membership in the Leapords Eating People's Faces party.

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  5. Major

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    And yet ... coward. He'd rather work with people responsible for death threats than Democrats.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...se-enters-15th-day-speak-rcna121146#rcrd22263

    "So far I’ve had four death threats. I’ve been evicted from my office in Colorado -- I have notice of an eviction -- because the landlord is mad with my voting record on the speaker issue," he said.

    Buck went on to say that he will not change his vote against Jordan in future ballots, adding that "at some point, we need to move on and find the 217 votes for a plan."

    Buck said he would vote in favor of a resolution to empower McHenry as speaker pro tempore so that the conference could then focus on getting 217 votes together for one candidate.

    "It can’t happen as a bipartisan effort. We have to have 217 votes... I think it would be politically unwise to try to go back to a base and say, 'Give us the votes, give us the money, give us the resources to win elections,' after we had to use the Democrats to make the House floor functional," he said.
     
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    after we had to use the Democrats to make the House floor functional, he said.

    ...this is one of those "saying quiet part out loud" things, right?
     
  7. Invisible Fan

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    I took the whole sentence as meaning he/they can't go back to their base if they were to bargain with the Democrats at this moment.

    He and everyone like him are afraid of getting primaried if they brokered a deal with Dems right now.
     
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    People behave towards their incentives.

    If all they have to fear is a primary, this is what you get.

    Time to update the rulebook, folks.
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    Both things can be true at the same time.
     
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    Republicans should be relieved he has, for now, fallen short of the votes. Gym, the Jerk, on Thursday abandoned a third speaker’s ballot for the moment, instead endorsing a measure to let acting Speaker
    Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.) run the House temporarily.

    The speaker’s job requires a very particular set of skills — an ability to build bipartisan coalitions, to work with one’s adversaries, and to learn to accept half-victories. That makes it a particularly crummy job for the jerk because
    the very essence of the position requires compromises that are anathema to the right wing and to the conservative media ecosystem that powered his ascent.

    In this moment, there are violent thunderstorms on the horizon — the job comes with a daunting roster of unfinished must-do business, including keeping the government open and providing tens of billions of dollars in aid
    to Israel and Ukraine. Passage of a bipartisan stopgap funding law last month cost then-Speaker Kevin McCarthy his job; Jordan opposed it.

    Let's not forget that, in a prior time, the jerk helped orchestrate government shutdowns and was once described by former Speaker John Boehner, a fellow Ohioan, as “a legislative terrorist” and an “azzhole.”

    Previous GOP Speakers like Boehner and Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) came from the party’s governing wing.

    The jerk has nothing remotely similar on his résumé. Now he’s hoping to get thrown in the deep end, taking on a Democratic president and a twin Senate threat of top Democrat Chuck Schumer and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell ,
    who are allied against Gym on aid to Ukraine and government spending levels. The jerk has vilified Schumer in the past and has virtually no history with McConnell.

    More than 20 Republicans, however, including several from the compromise-seeking Appropriations Committee, have united to block Jordan’s path in two separate votes this week.

    Some of the pressure tactics employed by the jerk's supporters irritated holdouts such as Appropriations Chair Kay Granger (R-Texas), a leadership loyalist whose opposition raised eyebrows. “This was a vote of conscience and
    I stayed true to my principles,” Granger wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter. “Intimidation and threats will not change my position.”

    McHenry may now end up cleaning out the barn, but it’s clear Republicans would still be mistaken if they handed power to the jerk afterward.


     
  11. SamFisher

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    Related: Old Man Don't GAF

     
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    What I find to be so transparent is at first Gym said he didn't want the job, and now he is like a bulldog on a bone even when its fairly clear 20 fellow gop members hate this dude but he doubling down to get the speakership..............and why is he acting like a bulldog on a bone, because his cult leader endorsed him and if he gets the job he can do trumps bidding, he doesn't give AF about trying to do what's right, all he wants is the power so he can show his king that he will do ANYTHING for him.

    This dude is nothing more than a snake oil salesman, his record over the past decade+ shows that
     
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    That’s exactly what he means but it’s putting party over country specifically fear of party reprisal over what’s good for the country
     
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    The other implication of this statement is that even if Democrats were to help elect a speaker the Republicans might not accept it.

    Any Democratic votes for a speaker might cause Republicans to not vote for that candidate.
     
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    Listening to the news and they are saying that McHenry threatened to resign his role as temporary speaker if there wasn't a full house vote on expanding powers of a temporary house speaker.
     
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    For many of those Republican Representatives from Districts that Biden won Jim Jordan has already threatened to primary them anyway because most of them aren't voting for him. If they are already going to be primaried how much worse would be if they vote "present" which would allow Jeffries to become the speaker.

    Many of them are called "RINO" already and getting threats. They are still going to have to face their voters as part of a party that can't even do the most basic things done with their majority.
     
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    I thought he has very limited power. Giving him more power seems to be a big deal, and I assume would fall under a 'rule change' for the House on what a temp Speaker can do. I wasn't sure he has the power to bring that up to a vote. But if he doesn't, who even does?
     
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    Then it goes to the next person in line to be temp speaker. That list has, to my understanding, multiple people.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Moderates can't let Jordan be the speaker, that's the line they can not cross and they know it. Not only will it sink them in elections, but Jordan is opposed to every last remnant of pre-Trump GOP policy. They would become irrelevant and dems would use Jordan to destroy them in elections.

    GOP made a huge mistake dumping McCarthy. The far right got so many wins, if they had just played it cool, they could have won the Presidency and Senate in 2024 campaigning on those wins. I can't see how this is going to help them.
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    When you've lost fox news...



    But I suspect his press conference was for an audience of one...


     

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