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KPJ TRADED to the Thunder

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mikol13, Oct 17, 2023.

  1. Kevooooo

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    Not opining on the legalese, just sharing the section in CBA as I hadn’t heard abt this supposed dilemma till I read this thread’s last page.

     
  2. Kevooooo

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    Not opining on the legalese, just sharing the section in CBA as I hadn’t heard abt this supposed dilemma till I read this thread’s last page.

    Im not curious enough to dig through the NBA domestic violence policy Lol
     
  3. SamFisher

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    We talked about this clause at length in another thread - nothing in the arrest section or DV policy rider overrides the team's right to waive any player it wants whenever (provided that they pay whatever salary guarantees are owed).

    Suspension without pay is discipline. Fines are discipline. Waiving is not.
     
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    i know, there's just no logic in it what so ever. You have always been able to waive anyone you want as long as you pay them, that's NOT discipline of any kind. Just stupidity
     
  5. napalm06

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    I agree, completely. But this is the impression Silver gave. "We will determine whether it's appropriate for Kevin Porter to be in training camp, or not." I mean, what?

    I have found this whole thing bizarre. It seems like under most circumstances a guy screwing around like this would've been cut within the week.
     
  6. heypartner

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    Why? because Feigen said *might*.

    What reason does OKC have to waive him. Then ask yourself, why isn’t that a reason for the Rockets?
    Silver actually did not say that. He said “we have time, because it’s not in season.

    So suppose he could have asked us not to waive until preseason started. And if so, doesn’t that imply teams could waive in-season sooner, for “basketball reasons”. Or would the team have to suffer with no ability to create a roster spot with a replacement player.
     
  7. roslolian

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    I'm surprised OKC is still hoarding picks.

    OKC managed to accumulate a gazillion picks, but most of those are gonna be low frps. It'll b interesting to see how they utilize those esp with the low talent level the next couple of years.
     
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    The woman in that situation always lies to cover up for her bf/husband. Everyone knew this was going to happen, it’s not news
     
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    If the Thunder could start 5 future picks in place of actual human beings, they would,
     
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  12. roslolian

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    Yeah I'd be surprised if they can leverage on all those low picks, NBA isn't a place where you can always trade 4 quarters for a dollar. They are supposedly done tanking as well.
     
  13. Joe Rocket

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    Yeah we said that because he should have been just waived. There was a blatant lie that they couldn't waive him. No one said that there wasn't shrewd teams out there looking for a deal. The complaint was the optics.
     
  14. napalm06

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    I'm not 100% clear what we disagree about, but if you're going to imply that I'm a liar for unknown reasons, let's dig up the exact quotes and remove ambiguity:



    I was thinking of 1:02 "take a little time here to better understand the situation". (Perhaps you took issue with my erroneous (but obviously implied) word "investigation", because you want to argue that Silver can arrive at a conclusion before the investigation does. Fine.)

    You quoted 0:37, where he says "when we're not in season there's a little bit more of an opportunity to understand what's happening".

    They're the same thing.

    Notice throughout the entire interview he uses the word we. (Count it: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 - however one of those is an us, since we're being precise.)

    What does that mean to you? To me it means that he views the decision about what to do with KPJ being partially under his authority.

    Thank goodness the Thunder helped us wash our hands of it regardless. Good riddance, just happy to move on.
     
  15. heypartner

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    Just because someone replies to you doesn’t mean they’re disagreeing. Sometimes their intent is to just further the conversation. That’s what I thought I was doing.

    maybe I should have started my reply with “fwiw”.

    the interesting expansion of the conversation to me is asking the question, what happens when an arrest is in season? Especially since Silver made a distinction about this not being in season.
     
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    Wow, Robinson Earl is just a 2nd year vet? Great pick up.
     
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    In a joking manner, its a shame we won't get to see a skirmish over a head honcho locker room slot between KPJ vs Giddey/SGA
     
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    ditto
     
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  19. Corrosion

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    How many things can get you high?
    I'm gonna try 'em all just once before I die.
    … And you can analyze this situation.
    To me, it's all just mental masturbation.
     
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    I think there is at least some grain of truth to running KPJ out there as your head honcho being for the purpose of being bad and landing in the early lottery.

    The other possibility, however slim, was KPJ balling out and having a large amount of trade value or being a star.

    Stone had nothing to lose in giving KPJ opportunity .... He was going to profit either way.

    I do believe that prior to KPJ #*&@ing up .... everything, he had some value in the league for Stone to extract in exchange for the investment the team made in him. But that one act #*&@ed up everything.
     
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