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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 7, 2023.

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    An invasion force of 2900 is a lot of terrorists, thank goodness it was not worse…still what near 1400 innocent civilians is way too much , almost all that tried to do amphibious invasion got killed in the water thankfully but it’s pure evil - They were interviewing a father that did not know what happened to his five-year-old girl and when they found out later that she was indeed dead all he could say was I am glad because if she was taken to Gaza that would’ve been the worst thing in the world. It’s crazy when death is considered a much kinder alternative than the torture by Hamas
     
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    Let's say 2900 terrorists attacked an American city, and the country was some strip of land the size of Philly?
    We wouldn't hesitate to turn it into a parking lot for a Taylor Swift concert.
     
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    And yet we have some posters supporting Hamas and both sides folks in this forum. It is rather disturbing.
     
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    Which posters?
     
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    As Arabs, our message to the world cannot be restricted to eliciting global sympathy for the children of Gaza. We cannot depict ourselves as helpless children, behind whom we hide our failure to control our Hamas thugs who massacred 1300 non-combatant Israelis. This is a moral failure that the world sees but that we try to hide behind the “rights of the Palestinian people,” rights that none of us are willing to articulate. Free Palestine can mean anything, from an Arab Palestinian state living in peace next to Jewish Israel to an Arab Palestinian state instead of Jewish Israel. For Arab Israeli peace to happen, and since Palestinians are either children, or Hamas thugs, or useless corrupt Mahmud Silicon-Face Abbas, non-Palestinian Arabs should step up to save the Palestinians from themselves and save the region ongoing sorrow. We, Arabs, have to show the world that we are at peace with the idea of a Jewish state, that we are willing to concede what we believe – rightly or wrongly -- is ours (1948 territory), that we genuinely want bygones to be bygones, without secretly holding grudges and passing them to our children. We must seek a better future for ourselves and our kids, as well as for Israelis and their kids. The Palestine disaster (nakba) is not a disaster of land loss or military defeat. It is a disaster of absence of leadership that can articulate the Arab alternative to war and death. We ask the world to stop the Israeli war on Hamas, but what do we offer as an alternative to stopping the war? Just let those Hamas thugs who massacred 1300 Israelis get away with their crime (because there is a history of dispute)? Ask Israel to go back to October 6? Knowing that Hamas can break out of the Gaza fence and repeat its massacre any minute? Hamas must go. We Arabs must help get rid of it, and most importantly, we must show that we have a plan for the day after Hamas. Let’s learn from the mistake of Iraq and Arab Spring countries, that once what we have is gone, what comes next looks worse. Let’s preempt the worse by offering the better. As long as we, the Arabs, do not have answers to all these questions, the world will manage things without us. It does not matter if all of us, 1.3 billion Muslims, think that Israel is at fault. What matters is global perception, which clearly thinks that Islamist terrorism is the problem, not Israelis dancing at a music festival. And we, the Arabs, are not even talking to the world. We are talking to each other, patting ourselves on the back for being utopian and principled on Palestine, while we are in fact idiotically out of touch with reality. We insist on our backward message, then act surprised why many of our states are failing and why we are migrating in droves. Please stop treating Palestine like religion, like we have to stick to our principles to win credit in the afterlife and to garner social acceptance among each other (Arabs and/or Muslims). Please think of Palestine like a problem that requires troubleshooting, compromise, pragmatism, and most importantly, looking toward the future, not the past.
     
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    @Exiled celebrated the murders

    People like @fchowd0311 and @DatRocketFan are much more focused on blaming Israel than anything.

     
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    What evidence do you have who was behind the attack on the Gaza hospital that killed 500 people?

    We see your posting pattern is always on one side, which means that you are an extremist by your own logic.

    We see you.
     
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    wtf are you babbling about

    The extremists are the ones who rape, who TARGET civilians, who slaughter babies, who threaten to execute civilian hostages on live TV.
     

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