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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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  1. ROXRAN

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    True Hate Speech
     
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  2. AroundTheWorld

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    It's not just Hamas. Many more Muslims across the world than there are Jews in the world want to see Jews dead. Sad truth.
     
  3. Commodore

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    in a decade or two, these lunatics you see ranting on college campuses will be embedded at the highest levels of elite institutions and government
     
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    That's a scary thought ...
    No one with this absolute vitriol of hatred against people should have any high level employment.
     
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    Tribalism and religion are very hard or impossible to remove from people
    An existential force would be required to remove it

    Like I said, there’s a better chance that the rockets win 10 championships in a row before peace , real peace aka no hatred based on race and religion in the Middle East

    I know someone mentioned Asia but the culture is very different, I mean Asians eat pork while the Jews and Muslims won’t eat bacon never mind half the menu for dim sum
    The Asian cultures are not based on religion but more on philosophy
     
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  6. DonnyMost

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    Nah man you gotta be like at least 70 to get elected nowdays
     
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  7. tinman

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    Why are the woke whiteys who like the trans and kids nuts chopped off and looting and shoplifting aligning with the Hamas?
    @Salvy had a good cartoon earlier where some woke girl is happy to see the Hamas dude and Hamas dude chops her head off

    do you see mice and pythons ever support each other ? No
    Seals and great white sharks? No

    woke and radical Islam don’t mix breh
     
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    People like @glynch hate "capitalists". Jewish people are being stereotyped as rich and capitalist, so he hates them. And the enemy of his enemy is his friend...or so he thinks.
     
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    Bernie is a Jew
    So how can you support Bernie and Jihadi ?
    Jahadi would kill Bernie because of his religion
     
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    @glynch is one who would probably consider Bernie too moderate.
     
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    https://www.csmonitor.com/Commentar...y-Middle-East-Muslims-are-taught-to-hate-Jews

    Why Middle East Muslims are taught to hate Jews


    For far too long the pervasive Middle Eastern qualification of Jews as murderers and bloodsuckers was dismissed in the West as an extreme view of radical fringe groups. But it is not. It is time for the region's secular movements to start a counter-education in tolerance.

    January 24, 2013|CAMBRIDGE, MASS.

    Egypt’s newly elected president, Mohamed Morsi, was caught on tape about three years ago urging his followers to “nurse our children and our grandchildren on hatred” for Jews and Zionists. Not long after, the then-leader of the Muslim Brotherhood described Zionists as “bloodsuckers who attack the Palestinians,” “warmongers,” and “descendants of apes and pigs.”

    These remarks are disgusting, but they are neither shocking nor new. As a child growing up in a Muslim family, I constantly heard my mother, other relatives, and neighbors wish for the death of Jews, who were considered our darkest enemy. Our religious tutors and the preachers in our mosques set aside extra time to pray for the destruction of Jews.

    For far too long the pervasive Middle Eastern qualification of Jews as murderers and bloodsuckers was dismissed in the West as an extreme view expressed by radical fringe groups. But it is not.

    All over the Middle East, hatred for Jews and Zionists can be found in textbooks for children as young as 3, complete with illustrations of Jews with monster-like qualities. Mainstream educational television programs are consistently anti-Semitic. In songs, books, newspaper articles, and blogs, Jews are variously compared to pigs, donkeys, rats, and cockroaches, and also to vampires and a host of other imaginary creatures.

    Consider this infamous dialogue between a 3-year-old and a television presenter, eight years before Mr. Morsi’s remarks.

    Presenter: “Do you like Jews?”

    3-year-old: “No.”

    “Why don’t you like them?”

    “Jews are apes and pigs.”

    “Who said this?”

    “Our God.”

    “Where did he say this?”

    “In the Koran.”

    The presenter responds approvingly: “No [parents] could wish for Allah to give them a more believing girl than she ... May Allah bless her, her father, and mother.”


    This conversation was not caught on hidden camera or taped by propagandists. It was featured on a prominent program called “Muslim Woman Magazine” and broadcast by Iqraa, the popular Saudi-owned satellite channel.

    It is a major step forward for a sitting US administration and leading American newspapers to unequivocally condemn Morsi’s words. But condemnation is just the first move.

    Here is an opportunity to acknowledge the breadth and depth of the attitude toward Jews in the Middle East, and how that affects the much desired but elusive peace process between Israel and the Palestinians.

    So many explanations have been offered for the failure of successive US administrations to achieve that peace, but the answer is in Morsi’s words. Why would one make peace with bloodsuckers and descendants of apes and monkeys?

    Millions of Muslims have been conditioned to regard Jews not only as the enemies of Palestine but as the enemies of all Muslims, of God, and of all humanity. Arab leaders far more prominent and influential than Morsi have been tireless in “educating” or “nursing” generations to believe that Jews are “the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs.” (These are the words of the Saudi sheik Abdul Rahman al-Sudais, imam at the Masjid al-Haram mosque in Mecca.)

    In 2011, a Pew survey found that in Turkey, just 4 percent of those surveyed held a “very favorable” or “somewhat favorable” view of Jews; in Indonesia, 10 percent; in Pakistan, 2 percent. In addition, 95 percent of Jordanians, 94 percent of Egyptians, and 95 percent of Lebanese hold a “very unfavorable” view of Jews.

    In recent decades Israeli and American administrations negotiated with unelected Arab despots, who played a double game. They honored the formal peace treaties by not conducting military attacks against Israel. But they condoned the Islamists’ dissemination of hatred against Israel, Zionism, and Jews.

    In the wake of the Arab Spring, as the people take a chance on democracy, they and their new leadership want to see their ideals turned into policy.

    For too many of those who fought for their own liberation, one of those ideals is the end of peace with Israel. The United States must make clear to Morsi that this is not an option.

    This is also a crucial opportunity for the region’s secular movements, which must speak out against the clergy’s incitement of young minds to hatred. It is time for these secular movements to start a counter-education in tolerance.

    As the Islamists spread their influence through civil institutions, young people were nursed on hatred.
     
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    Israel telling UN 1 million+ people have 24 hours to evacuate.
     
  14. Nook

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    Very very few Americans support Hamas.

    There are a solid number of Americans that support an independent Palestine - but even that is the minority.
     
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    Bruh, wokes are really taking it next level with Hamas.... They bout to start creating violence in our very own country.
     
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    I'd like a peace agreement for Palestine within my lifetime. A permanent apartheid buffer state doesn't sound safe or sustainable, let alone moral.

    Though the lines are so blurred there's probably "good" reasons for both parties to allow this to burn forever. I mean this likely wouldn't happen now without external reasons like the Abraham Accords or some lowkey form of Russian/Iranian backed meddling.

    Oh well. **** like this is likely more unsolvable than our gun control "problem".
     
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  18. Nook

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    Yeah - it isn’t going to happen. The Palestinians live in a Twilight Zone mix of an apartheid state and the Krakow Ghetto in 1938.

    The Jews feel entitled by God to the entire WestBank and Gaza and have been dehumanized to how they treat the Arabs.

    The Arabs in the WestBank and Gaza absolutely HATE the Jews and if given the chance would slaughter them all and celebrate on their bloody corpses.

    Nothing will end this short of the eradication of the WestBank and Gaza being leveled and the Arabs dead.

    The Palestinians fleeing isn’t even an option because Egypt has no interest in them.

    Israel isn’t going to suddenly back out of the WestBank and Gaza and treat the Muslims like equals - Palestine isn’t suddenly going to just stop fighting and let the Jews move in and take all their homes in the WestBank and Gaza.

    If no one will take the Palestinians - then we know where this is headed.
     
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    This isn't neighboring countries' first rodeo for a conflict of this magnitude. After the Palestinians lost the first time and fled to Jordan, they started a civil war there. Lebanon (and indirectly Syria) also has some stories to tell.

    The striking thing about what the Abraham Accords represented was that the participating nations didnt necessarily hate/fear the Jews moreso than Palestinians or Iranians.
     
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