The brain washed folks are those who offer blanket support to Israel as they commit war crimes upon the innocent Palestines in Gaza. People that aren't even involved in the terrorists attacks do not deserve to die. Full stop. Anybody trying to justify that their deaths are necessary are just as evil and hypocritical as the terrorists in my eyes.
Good questions, and ones that I'm sure the US and the rest of the West are asking in terms of tactics to respond in a way that isn't recycling the cycle of violence and creating bigger problems. Just think as a society where we would be where the teachings of the Holocaust have a "whataboutism" story of the genocide of the Palestinians by Israel where 2 million Palestinians were wiped off the face of the earth in a brutal fashion. Maybe it wouldn't look that way when you look at the details of how they did it, but as a society there CANNOT BE WHATABOUTISM in our history for the Holocaust. Israel does have to respond, but how they respond just means so much to the greater story of our history of this generation. I hope they take a measured approach and respond militarily with broad support from the West with reasonable objectives in regards to Hamas. Open humanitarian corridors and everyone needs to make deals with Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq to allow them to take women, and children from Gaza. Then a two state solution is a must after Hamas is dealt with. There might be different ways to achieve this path, but there has to be something similar that all parties (except Hamas assholes) agree to. Because the status quo, or wiping out all of Palestine aren't options that help anyone, and the ladder option would be devastating to the story, and struggle of Israel, and the Jewish people.
I did not see the Astros going back to the ALCS I have to say- amazing finish and at least that's positive
Kiddnapping kids is way way way out of line, this is why they should get no quarter - and innocents will die because of these tactics. And it will not be Israel's fault they did not decide to behead children, no mercy.....NONE for Hamas members......in fact we should be sending assassination squads to wherever anyone in Hamas is....and take em out. DD
I must say, the posters on here, fchowder, astro, datrocketfan, etc. can sit on here all day and argue back and forth about how Israel is bad and Hamas is kinda bad, but, but, what about the poor Palestinian people caught up in the middle of this - until you get sick of saying the same thing over and over again. Same regurgitation just a different topic. Y'all are acting as if posters on here (regardless of what party you claim you know they align with.. which is comical in its own right) are chanting death to the Palestinians everywhere. It's quite the opposite if you stopped trying to drive false narrative and saw what is going on cities all over the globe. The fact is, none of you could explain to anyone how you go about removing Hamas, and these threats, without killing innocent people. Hamas has embedded all of their infrastructure within the civilian population. So since these same posters are so fast to push a woke narrative answer these: Why are these so called innocent Palestinians not trying to get out of Gaza? If it is that bad, why aren't they invading Egypt and Israel similar to what we have at our Southern Border? If a large number of them caravan to a border - is Hamas, Egypt and Israel all going to just gun them down? if that happened, then sane people would be agreeing with said posters above. If these countries were to just gun all these Palestinians trying to get away from a terrorist, what does that say about the rest of the countries around the region that don't want these people, including Palestine? Are all the countries around the region that don't want these people bad guys too? Hell, while times have changed, getting out of the gutter isn't a new ideology. I have close relatives whose parents escaped countries like Hungary during the Hungarian Revolution and other parts of the world like the Philippines under Marcos, etc. None of them had money and they snuck out of their respective countries illegally and found their way to other countries, many here in the U.S.A. and live happy lives. Where there is will, there is a way.
I've looked for any kind of corroboration of the beheadings but yes, kidnapping anyone, much less kids is unacceptable. It should also be pointed out that Hamas most likely planned for an Israeli response of a ground invasion - that in fact - this was the goal - to force Israel to invade. Why you might wonder? Consider the failed wars against Lebanon and Afghanistan. Hamas knows that it will be impossible for Israel to track them down in an urban setting. Israel will take heavy losses. They will also kill many innocents, which will only further help solidify Hamas's power. And finally, when Israel finally does withdraw which they will eventually, Hamas can claim victory over Israel, and they see that has giving them legitimacy in the world, especially the Arab world. Israel is in a tough position. Don't respond and they look weak and tepid. Respond and they enter a quagmire. They are in a lose lose situation, and Hamas is in a win-win. Hamas is hoping for heavy Palestinian civilian casualties to rally the world to their cause.
The fact is, none of you could explain to anyone how you go about removing Hamas, and these threats, without killing innocent people. U just answer your own dam question. Where there is a will there is a way. And about immigrations. it might come off as a surprise to you, but conservatives countries do not like immigrants. In every country there's folks that btches about the border crisis and illegal immigrants trying to get over. We have conservatives on here that do not want illegal immigrants regardless of their situation. But now we are urging the other foreign countries to open their borders for palestines? The common theme with the conservatives on here is that they are hypocrites. Folks like atw who worries about the evil of the world and the need to protect his kids from it could give two fk if Israel kills little palestine kids with bombs 24/7. If you open your border once, the world will be pressuring you to do it the next time when Israel decides to commit war crimes. No countries wants to do it. How come the US doesn't open our border and allow palestine refugees to come over bc illegal immigration border crisis. Pro israel folks like to paint the neighboring countries as the bad guys for not accept palestine immigrants, I don't see any of other countries willing to do it.
@DatRocketFan doesn't care about protecting Jewish life. He doesn't want Israel to be able to defend itself.
