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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. glynch

    glynch Member

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    ATW I take it you regret Israel's tactic of helping fund Hamas in its early days?
     
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    Agree here - Trump looking like a side show used car salesman at this point
     
  3. glynch

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    S would you block food and water, too?
     
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    If Hamas cares about Palestinians, then release the hostages...quick solution- plus if they really care about being martyrs, this is their chance to go out in glory without having cowardly shields...7 brides await them in paradise soon
     
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    Israel has to do what it needs to do to eliminate the threat.
     
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    Newsflash for crazies like @glynch, @DatRocketFan, @fchowd0311:

    Those who take civilian hostages - women, babies, elderly - and threaten to execute them on live television are NOT the good guys.
     
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  7. astros123

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    These people are nuts
     
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    Has outrage of the death of israeli kids, but attempts to justify that bombing palestine kids is necessary for israel to beat hamas.

    Hypocrite.
     
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    Your solution is to starve out 2 million people without letting them escape?

    Why do you mix hamas and the people. I just don't get it
     
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    Hamas doesn't care about Palestinians? Who's arguing they do? There hasn't been an election in almost 2 decades and they won by 3 points. Why are you blaming the people for hamas?
     
  11. DatRocketFan

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    And shooting missiles at random killing kids, women, babies and elderly?
    Starving kids women babies and elderly
    Are what u considered the good guys?

    Get off your moral high horse u hypocrite.

    I never said hamas were the good guys either.

    I can recognize acts of evil bc my moral compass isnt blinded by biases unlike u.
     
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    Should they nuke Gaza if necessary to "eliminate the threat? Should they Should they bomb their own hostages held by Hamas to "eliminate the threat"? Should they take Hamas detainees and cut off their heads to "eliminate the threat"

    Should they possibly consider a modern democratic style one country with equal rights for all as we have in America? -- or in South Africa, or Northern Ireland to name countries who have had similar problems?

    BTW should they kill or imprison all children of Hamas members say under the age of 12 who will grow up hating the folks who killed, their fathers, mothers and and uncles and aunts and ccusins? Possibly reeducation camps for these kids?

    How have similar tactics for at least 20 years worked for the Israelis with Hamas?
     
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    Long thread by the Covid guy:

     
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    Wasn't Ramaswamy supposed to be a big brain or something. Or is just another play to the poorly educated who make up the Trumpist base of the GOP?
     
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    desantis already called out trump for his despicable comments. Another republican speaks out...

     
  18. Nook

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    First - Jews in modern day Israel and the WB and Gaza were largely out-numbered by Muslims and actually Christians through the late 1920's. Indeed, the British estimated that 4/5 of the people living in the area were Muslims, the next largest group were actually Bedouins and then Christians - and last Jews.

    As far as it being "ancient history", it is the basis used by Zionists to excuse the removal of the people that have been the overwhelming majority of people living in that area for nearly 1,500 years. So "ancient history" is extremely relevant.

    Also I don't care what Muhammad or his father in law or Umar said well over 1,000 years ago - as I do not care what the Talmud states either on the topic.



    Were you aware that almost 90% of the people living in the area that the English called Palestine all the way through the 1920's was NOT Jewish? That over 80% of the people were Muslims and that there were as many Bedouins and Christians as Jews?

    Seems like you are either being told a lot of cherry-picked statistics or are looking at cherry picked statistics.

    I say this as a man that has no lost love for Islam in the modern world. It is just factually true.



    Again - look at the population in the entire area of Israel and the occupied territory - over 80% of it was Muslim.

    White men did just drop a huge number of Jews in the Middle East when they turned Palestine into Israel - as the population has exploded, and it went from a 90% non-Jewish state, to one that is not over 50% Jewish. That happened because the West decided to use their spoils of war to establish a Jewish state in 1948.

    Again - the population of Jews in English-Palestine went from less that 10% to well over 50%, and if you look at the emigration numbers, the number of Jews immigrating was HUGE compared to Muslims or Christians.

    Okay? For every Jew that lived in Palestine in the 1940's, there are nearly 9 Arabs.

    You seem to have this idea that the fact that there were some Jews living in Palestine, that it justifies apartheid and how Israel was founded. It doesn't... there are Jews and Christians in Iraq too.

    When there is multiple examples of genocide, wars and countless murders all being justified on Abrahamic religion differences - I don't give a damn if someone finds that rude. I am more concerned with the unnecessary destruction that is still on going in that region.

    I would be killed talking about sky gods in the Middle East? SO? That has zero relevance. Is your inference that apartheid is okay because Israel is more palatable that Muslim states?

    If you haven't figured it out by now - I am not a fan of Islam, certainly at a MINIMUM not how it is practiced in large parts of the Middle East and the world. It is often times barbaric and oppressive.

    The concept of the chosen people in the Torah has been criticized by many (including some Jews), because it has often times been used as a justification for things like - apartheid in Israel.

    If it matters to you - this is common in all Abrahamic religions - ask many a devout Muslim and they will tell you how special they are in God's eyes as well.

    You are jumping all over the place.

    First, it is a fact - the basis for giving aid to isreal for many decades has been that if we did not, they would be slaughtered by the Muslim nations surrounding them.

    Second - if you have not noticed, the hatred between Zionist Jews and Muslim Arabs are just about as bad as possible.

    Third - the USA did not enter World War II because the Jews were being round up and killed. In fact prior to World War II Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heyden offered to send Jews to the USA and the USA said absolutely not. In fact no one in the Western world would take Jews. The USA knew about concentration camps, Krakow and the ghettos and did not enter WWII until Pearl Harbor.

    So spare me the sanctimonious lines about being disrespectful to the Allied Forces. Also, I had two grandfathers that fought in WWII and my wife had a grandfather and grandmother that were in death camps in Triblnka when they were found in the forest by German forces.

    For what it is worth - I respect you and your opinion, even if I greatly disagree with you.

    What I will say is that, I get the feeling that you seem to think that I believe that the Palestinians hands are clean - that is not the case at all. The hatred and duplicity is there through-out the region.
     
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    “Shameful that a man like that, a former U.S. president, abets propaganda… We don’t have to bother with him and the nonsense he spouts”. Unfortunately, many people in the republican party either ignore or worse, support the nonsense he spouts...

     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    I don't know abou the rest of y'all but I've been alternating between joy about the Stros and feeling sick and despair about whats happening in the Middle East.
     
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