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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. DatRocketFan

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    Hamas doesn't represent Palestine. But due to the media and ignorance of the world, it makes folks make statements like this.

    Yes u should condemn Hamas for the barbaric, inhumane and immoral acts, and u can sympathize the injustices Palestine suffer under Israel. U can do both.

    The Hamas attacks should not cloud folks eyes to allow Israel to have a free pass in committing war crimes upon the Palestine people who are innocent b/c HAMAS AINT Palestine.

    Withholding food, water and electricity, while bombing to level Gaza to the ground ruining the lives of many innocent Palestine is quite evil and cruel. But folks are too bias to look at it for both side
     
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  2. K9Texan

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    Gaza is and has been governed by Hamas for years.
     
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  3. LosPollosHermanos

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    The biggest enemy of the Palestinian people is hammas not Israel. Their 2nd biggest enemy are these arab countries using them as pwns
     
  4. DatRocketFan

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    And?
    That's like saying districts that have MAGA politicians represent everybody there with their full support.

    Do innocent palestines not live there? Not all Palestines support Hamas, they are not the same. Hamas deserves to b punished but not at the cost of innocent palestines who are unlucky to be living in Gaza


    Not everybody has the luxury to move away from places govern by people they don't like or support.
     
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  5. geeimsobored

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    All true but to be clear, Netanyahu has a catastrophic level of damage to the process as well. Every single prime minister that wasn't named Netanyahu from the last 30 years (even Ariel Sharon) made some sort of attempt to deal with the issue of Palestinian statehood and self governance. Netanyahu was there the entire time undermining governments from the outside and as prime minister. To me, he's been as counter-productive as anyone or any other country. He's admitted openly that he actively undermined every attempt at a negotiated two state solution. Whether it was Rabin, Barak, or Olmert trying to create a comprehensive deal, Netanyahu was in the opposition quietly undermining the Israeli negotiators. And then when he became prime minister, he routinely reneged on agreements with the Palestinians from previous administrations.
     
  6. cdastros

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    The Palestinians seem to breed like rats. My main point is that all Hamas wants to do is kill Jews. You can't negotiate with someone like that.
     
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  7. fchowd0311

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    I was more referring to the government and militants on both sides as boh Hamas' militants and the IDF are full of people who have given up on any basic concepts of empathy but hey if you want to refer to Palestinians as a people as rats and if that is a common way Israelis see Palestinians I would find it very ironic given this type of history of Nazis comparing Jews to rats:
     
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  8. Space Ghost

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    100%

    People like @DatRocketFan are institutionally programmed to hate Israel (anti-sematic)
     
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  9. fchowd0311

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    Can you elaborate?
     
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  11. fchowd0311

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    If the enemy of Palestinians is Hamas and if Bibi and the Israeli government when the PLO were doing "adult" things like setting up a secular socialist government became afraid the international community would side with the Palestinian statehood cause because they saw the PLO taking the right mature steps to the point they help fund and supported an entity that was an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood to fight the PLO that wanted a fundenantalist Islamic government in power that the international community wouldn't be as fond of that eventually turned into the entity known as Hamas wouldn't the Israeli government also be the enemy of the Palestinians?

    When Palestinians try to do legitimate statehood things they still get sabotaged by the Israeli government.
     
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  12. cdastros

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    I don't think Palestinians are rats they just breed like them. The leaders of Hamas want to kill all Jews, has Benjamin Netanyahu said he wants to kill all Palestinians?
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    Okay

    Yes Bibi has a long history of genocidial thoughts when he was younger of Arabs and Palestinians. Dude has a lot of severe PTSD and trauma especially due to his brother and has deranged thoughts about Palestine and Arabs in general.

    As a polished career politician he has the restraint now to say everything up to the line of wanting to annihilate Palestinians because he understands that he needs to have a basic appearance of not being a genocidial maniac to be accepted by the international community.
     
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    It sounds like Hamas is going to launch more attacks.

     
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    I feel like the connotation of "breeding like rats" purposefully is an intent to dehumanize people.
     
  16. DatRocketFan

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    Making sht up. I feel empathy for both side. Hamas should b condemn for their attack on Israel, and Israel should be condemn for them inflicting pain and suffering on the innocent palestines living in Gaza under the guise of "attacking Hamas".

    Unlike u who likes to group Hamas and Palestine together and believe whatever Israel is doing in retaliation is justified.
     
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    You are obviously Muslim and have been subjected to the typical propaganda.
     
  19. DatRocketFan

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    Nah i just don't like seeing innocent people die over stupid thing like religion and race.

    U are obvious pro israel b/c of religion, don't b trying to use moral high ground when u are obviously bias and view muslims inferior.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    You are no more deprived of empathy as your typical Hamas insurgent/terrorist or IDF soldier. The only difference is you don't have the PTSD childhood of most Hamas recruits and many IDF soldiers.
     

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