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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    Take this ****er out already
     
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  2. Ubiquitin

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    Isn’t he in Qatar, I don’t think Israel had the force projection to strike Qatar.
     
  3. astros123

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    In my opinion it’s a lose - lose situation for Israel . I do not know what I would do

    I’m Jewish . I support the right for Israel to exist .

    The history of that region is conflict since the birth of Israel .( and before )

    I obviously condemn violence agaisnt Israel from Hamas ( not that they care )

    I also condemn the treatment of Palestinians by Israel , Israel has been the aggressor many times . The critique of apartheid is true.

    there is another layer to all of this that I hate and that is about Netanyahu. This guy literally is corrupt and has done everything to stay in power , and now he gets to declare an emergency. With the reports that he ignored security briefings popping up , well I believe it’s true .

    from the outside we think of Israel’s military and intelligence as top notch . That they missed this is suspicious.

    tinfoil hat regardless, this is just an all around terrible situation.

    I think maybe if I was dictator of Israel I would not have retaliated… this time , but I just don’t know
     
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  5. T_Man

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    This discussion with Palestine and Israel is a slippery slope...

    I keep seeing how individuals are trying to make supporters on each side look bad... There is a lot of bad history with this from both sides and to me this is a no win situation for America... I do hate that innocent people will be getting hurt and killed because of this...

    T_Man
     
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  6. Ubiquitin

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    Liberal podcaster Ben Rhodes suggests that Bibi purposely turned a blind eye to the south and ignored the warnings from Egypt which led to the 1,500 Hamas terrorists to storm the unguarded fence so he could gain politically. Supposedly Bibi has told his political partners in 2019 that a strong Hamas is the best thing for Israel because it delegitimizes the Palestinians in the global stage vs the accepted Palestinian authority.
     
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  7. dobro1229

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    MAGA people here need to learn to shut up on when it’s time to look inward and educate folks within our own bubbles first.

    You have no moral authority here on this topic as a Trump supporter. None. Nada. The Jared Kushner plan in 2017 to 20 to completely remove Palestinians from the equation on negotiating a solution that the Obama admin and our Allie’s had been working towards is a bit part of why Hamas was able to take over, recruit, and build up towards this attack. Also pulling out of the Iranian nuclear deal continues to be a massive failure of foreign policy with Iran.

    Trumps big accomplishment with Iran and deterrence… assassinating Sulaiman which did nothing but consolidate factions in Iran and lead them further down this path of training and arming Hamas, and others.

    In 2015 BLM and other left leaning groups had reason to look at the situation in Palestine and say something is wrong there and the US needs to craft policy that doesn’t leave out Palestinians which would create another Afghanistan type of situation but with more people in a smaller area with more reasons to hate the West and channel that anger at Israel.

    This person made a stupid comment about destroying Israel and needs to be educated and needs to apologize. It’s Kyrie Irving like dumbassary. However that education and condemnation needs to come from sources that actually have some credibility and not MAGA assholes.
     
  8. Nook

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    Yeah.... this is will be a convenient way to clear land for future Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza. I'm sure next month the land will be listed on Zillow.
     
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    When Israel declared independence, it did not claim all of the land. The West Bank was part of Jordan for instance after the 1948 war. Point being, to say Palestine never existed isn't accurate.
     
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    Yeah makes sense that Bibi has some blame here for politically looking at convenience for him vs just focusing on what is best for Israel.

    It would be like the Dem party behind the scenes propping up Trump and MAGA cultists in elections just because they knew that they were easier to beat in a general election. That might be mostly true but if you gamble incorrectly then we could lose our democracy.

    Bibi gambled on Hamas to help drive his hard right politics and it has now blew up in his face. Now Bibis days as PM are probably limited.
     
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    Mossad
     
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  12. Nook

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    That's the plan.

    I am sure that the power brokers in Israel have realized by now that they should have "cleansed" the West Bank and Gaza a long time ago. Plus, now there are plenty of Jews that would love to move into that area.
     
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    They deserve to take it. It will be for the better.
     
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    @B-Bob the offical Israeli government spread the disinformation that the American embassy was evacuating. It's just ****ing insane the amount of disinformation everywhere.

    When folks like @Space Ghost claim labeling disinformation as disinformation is somehow nazi level censorship it's ridiculous.

    Disinformation and lies is ripping this country apart
     
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    .. lol Israelis don't have some divine right over Gaza. Why don't you go b**** at Bush for allowing hamas to get into power. Insanity that Israelis have some right over Gaza.

    Hamas should be kicked out and PLO should take over.
     
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    War was declared on them from there. They need to eliminate the threat. To the victor belong the spoils.
     
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    Again. This is too damn difficult for your brain to grasp. The people of Gaza have not elected hamas to rule them. Hamas won in a rigged election pushed by George Bush and won by 3 points.

    This r****ded theory that somehow Palestinians in Gaza overwhelming support hamas is braindead conspiracies
     
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    Pffft if you want to take that stance sure in history the strong dominates the weak, but don't b trying to use morality and righteousness to justify mass murder of innocent folks in palestine, u just come off as a hypocrite.
     
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  20. Salvy

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    There is no point in letting Hamas or any extremist terrorist group run that area ever again, there is no other choice. Either take it over or risk it happen again.
     
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